Was Admiral Marcus a descendant of Paxton?
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Short answer, no. They're just two characters played by the same actor. They're no more related than Commander Giotto and Commodore Wesley. Or Tom Paris and Nick Locarno.
Well, they look alike.
Descendent might be too strong a word. Both may have come from the same influential family leading them to positions of power in life. Distant relations.
Or they just look alike.
Descendent might be too strong a word. Both may have come from the same influential family leading them to positions of power in life. Distant relations.
Or they just look alike.
It's possible. Marcus didn't seem too alien-friendly, and obviously Paxton was not.
It would help, though, if we knew what Marcus Prime was like...
It would help, though, if we knew what Marcus Prime was like...
Adam West.
Well, if that's your attitude when you post an opinion and someone disagrees with it, then yeah, maybe you shouldn't. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say that maybe you're taking this a bit too seriously.
It always seemed to me that Tom Paris was supposed to be Nick Locarno. Paris' backstory suggested that pretty strongly.
In actuality Tom Paris was intended to be Nick Locarno, however, due to expense of Rights issues, they renamed him, so, they didn't have to pay the creator of Nick Locarno for every episode Tom Paris appeared in
So if you create a character that happens to be a recurring one, the writer gets royalties every time he/she is used? There's a really strong case to make that Paris = Locarno. Even producers admit to as much. Wouldn't the name change be irrelevant considering?
I would have assumed all rights would go to the show or creator.
I would have assumed all rights would go to the show or creator.
I'm not sure exactly how it works, but, I think it's the difference between a Staff Writer and one who isn't a Staff Writer. With a Staff Writer, the Show owns what's in the script. But, no, you can change a character name in many cases and get away from Rights issues. There's nothing "unique", really about Nick Locarno, that they couldn't justify having a character exactly likely him, played by the same actor, as long as they don't name him Nick Locarno.
Actor aside, I don't see any link between Marcus and Paxton. That said, fans have been linking characters played by the same actor for decades, like "Number One" and Christine Chapel.
One interesting family tidbit from ID: Carol sneaks aboard using her mother's maiden name, Wallace. The writers mentioned somewhere that it's a reference to Janet Wallace from TOS: "The Deadly Years" (who was originally going to be in Wrath of Khan, but the character was replaced by Carol), who was a former flame of Kirk's. It likely makes Janet Wallace and Carol Marcus cousins, both of whom Kirk slept with.
One interesting family tidbit from ID: Carol sneaks aboard using her mother's maiden name, Wallace. The writers mentioned somewhere that it's a reference to Janet Wallace from TOS: "The Deadly Years" (who was originally going to be in Wrath of Khan, but the character was replaced by Carol), who was a former flame of Kirk's. It likely makes Janet Wallace and Carol Marcus cousins, both of whom Kirk slept with.
This sort of thing is quite common in Trek. Indeed, in the early stages of Enterprise, they were originally going to have T'Pau as the ship's Vulcan officer, but due to the issue of royalties she was changed to T'Pol.
Just ask Law & Order: SVU how much they had to pay to use Munch for over a decade.
How did Worf and O'Brien move over to DS9 as regulars? I guess it depends on who created them -- the showrunners or a writer of the week.
And Commander Shran was such an interspecies player he's the ancestor of both Weyoun and Brunt!
And Commander Shran was such an interspecies player he's the ancestor of both Weyoun and Brunt!
That's a really juvenile commment. The OP made a legitimate observation.
It was a humorous remark, made in conjunction with more serious replies to posts pointing out that simply having the actor in common does not mean that the character roles need be in any way related. People are allowed to make jokes, so lighten up.And Commander Shran was such an interspecies player he's the ancestor of both Weyoun and Brunt!
That's a really juvenile commment. The OP made a legitimate observation.
Besides that, it's (still) not your job to call anyone on their supposed behavior. If you see something that you believe might be out of line, the thing for you to do is to use this button (
As to the remainder of the OP's observation: if having similar agendas and employing extreme methods were all that was legitimately required to prove genetic relationship between otherwise widely-separated characters, then it would be not only reasonable to presume that many villains from Star Trek (as well as a host of other movie, TV and other fictional properties) all belonged to one big, happy, villainous family, it would be a near-certainty, would it not?
I still think it's fair to at least jokingly suggest that Paxton might be Marcus' ancestor. It's not simply because Peter Weller played both roles. Both men are xenophobic and paranoid to an extreme degree, and were willing to kill (and have others killed) to achieve their goals. Admittedly, this wouldn't even be brought up without the shared actor, but it is food for thought, as it were. (Maybe not good food, but something like marshmallow or beef jerky for thought.)
I'm sure they worked something out. IIRC, Tom Fontana (creator of H:LOTS) and Dick Wolf (of L&O) are good friends, and regularly had crossovers between their shows. So I'm sure Fontana signed off easily on letting Wolf use John Munch in SVU.
@Aragorn: Worf and O'Brien were part of TNG from the get-go, so I assume they weren't created by a 'writer of the week' - they were owned by TPTB and thus free to move among shows as the showrunners wished.
I'm sure they worked something out. IIRC, Tom Fontana (creator of H:LOTS) and Dick Wolf (of L&O) are good friends, and regularly had crossovers between their shows. So I'm sure Fontana signed off easily on letting Wolf use John Munch in SVU.
@Aragorn: Worf and O'Brien were part of TNG from the get-go, so I assume they weren't created by a 'writer of the week' - they were owned by TPTB and thus free to move among shows as the showrunners wished.
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