Many of us are probably aware that according to The Naked Now, the SS Tsiolkovsky was constructed in the USSR, apparently still around in the 24th century. Of course, the real-world reason for this oddity is that the episode was written and filmed several years before the Soviet Union would collapse, but though it's likely most people choose to simply ignore the reference in The Naked Now, is there anyone who thinks that in the Trekverse, the USSR could have reformed by the 2300s? The former option is probably the preferred one though.
USSR in the 24th century?
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In The Naked Now, the SS Tsiolkovsky was constructed at the Baikonur Cosmodrome, USSR. The Baikonur Cosmodrome is located in modern day country of Kazakhstan. While it hard the believe that the USSR as it existed up through 1990 would be reconstituted, a smaller version of the "workers paradise" might return.
And there nothing that says that U.S.S.R. has to stand for the same thing as Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the initials for Kazakhstan's current full name is KPQRPKRK, (Қазақстан Республикасы Qazaqstan Respublïkası Республика Казахстан Respublika Kazakhstan).
USSR might be Ukranian, Sumerian, (something else), and Russian.
And there nothing that says that U.S.S.R. has to stand for the same thing as Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the initials for Kazakhstan's current full name is KPQRPKRK, (Қазақстан Республикасы Qazaqstan Respublïkası Республика Казахстан Respublika Kazakhstan).
USSR might be Ukranian, Sumerian, (something else), and Russian.
Ukrainian Surakian Space Republic. 
In Soviet Russia, starship builds you!
And of course "I, Mudd" had Chekov mention Leningrad, suggesting that St. Petersburg goes back to that name at some point.
USSR reforming is easy. What about the eugenics war that's not happening? Apparently we are in the wrong time line, Romulans travelled back in time to sabotage our space program by dissolving the USSR and mocking our real future by turning it into a TV show. Thankfully, time agents are positioned throughout the time line to repair the damage, and this forum will soon cease to have existed.
It's also possible that in 1986...
Well, if there really were such a thing as a communist nation, it wouldn't have any people at the top. The idea is that after a civilization goes through agrarian feudalism and industrial capitalism, a worker's revolt institutes a socialist dictatorship that works toward educating the entire populace to be economically self-sufficient and morally self-correcting so that the state becomes unnecessary and can dissolve away, leaving an anarchic communist utopia where no one has any more power than anyone else. Which always falls apart in practice because it relies on the incredibly naive assumption that any authoritarian institution can be relied upon to work toward its own dissolution. So nations run by "Communist" parties invariably get frozen at the socialist-dictatorship stage, and that's where the corruption becomes a critical problem -- because Marxist ideology is so dependent on the ethical perfectibility of the individual that it has no inbuilt safeguards against corruption and abuse of power.
Must crush capitalism.
The real reason the Eugenics Wars weren't shown in Trek when we see the mid-90s was because the writers didn't want to confuse the audience by showing a destroyed LA in "Future's End". So they changed it that the Eugenics Wars were some Asia-only conflict that most people weren't aware of when they happened.
How is that a change? There was never any indication in "Space Seed" that the Eugenics Wars did affect America, and it was made clear that Khan's territory covered Asia and the Middle East. So nothing needed to be changed.
Heck, there hasn't been a war fought on American soil since the US Civil War (since Hawai'i wasn't yet a state at the time of Pearl Harbor). The continental US was all but untouched by WWI, WWII, and every other military conflict of the 20th century. Why should the Eugenics Wars have been any different?
^Well, we parochial Americans didn't notice. The billion and a half people living under Khan Noonien Singh's rule had probably at least heard of him. (And sadly, it's all too believable that Americans could be unaware of massive events happening elsewhere in the world. If it doesn't directly affect us, we'd rather hear about the latest pop-diva scandal.)
What, the Soviet Union was restored by the 24th century?? Who knows, maybe Prussia has come back from the dead as well (someone had to start World War III, you know 
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But yeah, best to ignore that little anachronism.
).But yeah, best to ignore that little anachronism.
Don't you know we're living in an alternate timeline (even based on ol'Trek and not the nuTrek): Voyager "Future's End." We are living with the microcomputer revolution ushered in by Henry Starling.
We don't know the geo-politics of 24th century Earth. Obviously it is a member of the Federation, but there may be any number of national states in existence. And since it is a post-capitalist society, who knows, maybe there is another USSR where all work for themselves and to better humanity.
I always wondered if there are national states that not only retained their national identity but didn't become part of United Earth and/or of the Federation?
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