After the war with the Dominion ended was the Defiant decommissioned and sent to Earth?
James
James
USS Defiant Decommissioned
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Ok then, would someone please explain how the Defiant made it to Earth to fight the Borg and what would the reason be for keeping the Defiant at DS9?
The ship had limited exploration/science capabilities, and it had a cloaking device, somrthing Starfleet didn't use in piece time.
James
The ship had limited exploration/science capabilities, and it had a cloaking device, somrthing Starfleet didn't use in piece time.
James
The Defiant fought the Borg in 2373, which was the same year the Dominion War broke out. The battle actually took place shortly before the war broke out, if my memory is functioning properly. The original Defiant was destroyed in battle in 2376 and was replaced by a second ship with the same name. There is no evidence in canon sources that the second Defiant had a cloaking device. As for the post war service of the second Defiant, that depends on the nature of the post Dominion War environment, which was never fully addressed in canon sources. There are many fanfics, novels, etc. which have their own take on this. It would really depend on which version of the future you prefer to use.
Defiant in the context of this answer referring to Defiant-class vessels only. There was of course the Constitution-class Defiant of the previous century.
Defiant in the context of this answer referring to Defiant-class vessels only. There was of course the Constitution-class Defiant of the previous century.
I was thinking the battle of sector 001 took place shortly after the war, I was mistaken.
When did Starfleet know the Borg were heading for Sector 001 and how long did the Defiant have to get there?
James
When did Starfleet know the Borg were heading for Sector 001 and how long did the Defiant have to get there?
James
They wanted Worf in the movie, therefore the Defiant was visiting Earth at the time.
Duh.
^_~
Duh.
^_~
Even without an active war, there was a need for a ship of the line to be stationed at DS9. The wormhole was simply too important by that point. They may have been able to get away with pretending DS9 was a backwater station for the first few years of the show, but by the end of the war that wasn't anywhere near true.
True. But the Defiant was specifically designed to fight the Borg so it does make some sense to have it involved in the battle. Up until Valiant it was seen as the only ship of it's class in action.
We saw a unnamed Defiant at the end of Call to Arms as part of the Federation/Klingon fleet.
I knew as soon as I posted someone would point something like that out to me
I never noticed it in Call to Arms, I'm surprised I didn't see a fleetload of Defiants after then as they would have been smaller, more capable to deal with conflict, have a small crew (they did mention manpower issues) and possibly faster to build.But my general thinking was basicly that the Defiant was still the only sip of it's class (in terms of writing/prodction) at the time of FC.
I would tend to agree, the Defiant was built for the
threat, and I would imagine that that would still exist in some way, so I would say that it would be in some sort of refit. (Her and all her sister ships not destroyed in the war)
So I take it that the fleet that engaged the Borg at Earth were ships in the general area and didn't have a running fight with the Borg into sector 001, and the Defiant was probably visiting Earth?
Am I correct!?
James
Am I correct!?
James
Well now you're getting into non-canon territory, but over at ditl.org they assume that the battle lasted something like four days and involved several hundred starships. This was to account for the Enterprise's travel time from the Neutral Zone to the battlefield. Does it really take four days to make that trip? I don't really know the distances involved (and would rather not) but four days sounds fine. The Defiant was present at the beginning of the battle and at the end, so I was guess it was a pretty tough ship overall.
Does anyone know if the E-E heard anything over subspace communications while patrolling the neutral zone of the fleet engagement with the borg before the Borg entered sector 001? If proof of a running battle with the Borg can be confirmed, it could be said that the Borg could've entered Federation Space some distance from DS9 for the Defiant to follow from there and build a fleet as the battle moved toward sector 001.
James
James
You have seen the movie right?
The Enterprise listens in on the fleet's tactical channel as it initially engages the Borg in the Typhon sector. We get at least three name drops, Lexington, Bozeman and Defiant as they hear the first minute of the battle. It doesn't go very well, Picard shuts it off and then decrees that he's taking the ship to intercept the Borg. In the next part of the movie we see the Defiant attacking the cube as it gets very close to Earth. So the Defiant was there for the very start of the battle to stop the cube to just about the very end.
As for how long that period was we have no idea. The movie gives no indication as to how long the battle has been going or how long the Enterprise took to get from the Neutral Zone to Earth.
A running battle with the Borg cube seems odd given that Borg ships are faster at ftl speeds then the Federation's. However, the Borg's attacks haven't really made all that much sense anyway.
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