Who thinks that after the Starship Voyager's return home that "Starfleet Command" would have taken the ship out of service for 6 months and after every technician in the Fleet would examine it that the ship after achieving legndary status would be assigned to Admiral Janeway and other notable Flag Officers as a courier vessel for Diplomatic functions, light scientific duty, etc. A new more fully active and more front line Starship Voyager would have been commisioned. After handling the Borg out in the Delta Quadrant the name Voyager would stick in th Biorg Unimind Group consciousness. A fully armed Sovereign class Starship Voyager NCC-74656 would be a perfect compliment to be added to the fleet roster to stand guard over the Federation. With an Butt kicking Sovereign Class Starship Voyager Admiral Benjamin Sisko would have a fun time chasing after the bad guys who did in his wife Jennifer. A Sov Class Voyager could be based near DS-9 . With it's high speeds it could handle the Delta,Alpha and Gamma Quadrants. the new Voyager would keepp thing rolling with Chakotay at the XO post, Tuvok at Security and Miles O'Brien in the Engine Room. Cool.
U.S.S.Voyager, NCC-74656-A : Sovereign class Starship.
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Voyager (Intrepid class) was heavily armed to begin with.
On par with the Galaxy class in term of fire output and defensive capabilities.
And if I'm not mistaken, the Intrepid class starship is rated to be faster than the Sovereign class.
Top cruising speed of Warp 9.975, while the Sovereign was rated at about 9.9
There is simply no need to create the 'A' version of Voyager since the Intrepid one is fully operational, and capable of system upgrades that would probably bring it on par with the other most powerful star ships in the Federation.
Unless of course all the modifications the crew did to the ship over the period of 7 years already did that job (future technologies not withstanding).
And technically speaking, with future technologies, Voyager is the most powerful ship in Alpha, Beta and Gamma Quadrants (and most of the Delta Quadrant apart from those species that are really technologically more advanced beyond the admiral Janeway future Federation).
On par with the Galaxy class in term of fire output and defensive capabilities.
And if I'm not mistaken, the Intrepid class starship is rated to be faster than the Sovereign class.
Top cruising speed of Warp 9.975, while the Sovereign was rated at about 9.9
There is simply no need to create the 'A' version of Voyager since the Intrepid one is fully operational, and capable of system upgrades that would probably bring it on par with the other most powerful star ships in the Federation.
Unless of course all the modifications the crew did to the ship over the period of 7 years already did that job (future technologies not withstanding).
And technically speaking, with future technologies, Voyager is the most powerful ship in Alpha, Beta and Gamma Quadrants (and most of the Delta Quadrant apart from those species that are really technologically more advanced beyond the admiral Janeway future Federation).
Well, it has the same number of phaser strips, more or less. And a couple of torp tubes more. But this doesn't mean much: your average old cruiser would have more guns than an old battleship, and still be a markedly weaker warship. Each of the weapons of the Intrepid could be individually weaker than their Galaxy counterparts. At least no onscreen source has suggested that the opposite would be true, or that the Voyager as originally built would have been a particularly powerful or exceptional vessel in any respect save speed.
But I do think that Janeway and her ship would be placed under a glass dome for UFP citizens to ogle, rather than being pressed back to active service. Starfleet shouldn't be short of ships or personnel at the end of the Dominion war: quite to the contrary, it probably suffers from a considerable surplus. So retiring the Voyager and perhaps launching a new starship under that name would indeed be a good possibility for the late 2370s or early 2380s... IMHO.
Timo Saloniemi
Admiral Janeway said that Voyager had become a museum.
After what happened to V'Ger and Voyager, it would ave been safer to retire the name before the next Voyager got stranded/flung to the other side of the universe.
Did they describe Voyager as a short range tactical vessel or as an escout vessel? I wouldn't describe her as a gunship, are phasers still tied into the warp reactor, because it must be standardized technology really?
After what happened to V'Ger and Voyager, it would ave been safer to retire the name before the next Voyager got stranded/flung to the other side of the universe.
Did they describe Voyager as a short range tactical vessel or as an escout vessel? I wouldn't describe her as a gunship, are phasers still tied into the warp reactor, because it must be standardized technology really?
I wonder if any of the novels have dealt with all of the future technology Jneway came home with? I haven't read any of them so I wouldn't know.
Voyager was intended to be a scientific vessel so I don't think they were comparable to a galaxy class in terms of armament. The Galaxy was very under-utilized in that respect with what they showed on screen.
I do think that Voyager's fame in the Federation would justify the -A successor starship(s) status.
Voyager was intended to be a scientific vessel so I don't think they were comparable to a galaxy class in terms of armament. The Galaxy was very under-utilized in that respect with what they showed on screen.
I do think that Voyager's fame in the Federation would justify the -A successor starship(s) status.
In one of the episodes, Voyager was classified as a long range explorer.
I still see very little reason for Voyager to be decommissioned just so the people could ogle at her.
A waste of resources if you ask me.
It's a perfectly operational starship only 7 years old that was designed to last over 100 years in hull life span.
Kirks ship was not decommissioned until the end of TUC, and by then, the A version of the ship was over a decade old if I'm not mistaken (and had a `legend` status as well).
I still see very little reason for Voyager to be decommissioned just so the people could ogle at her.
A waste of resources if you ask me.
It's a perfectly operational starship only 7 years old that was designed to last over 100 years in hull life span.
Kirks ship was not decommissioned until the end of TUC, and by then, the A version of the ship was over a decade old if I'm not mistaken (and had a `legend` status as well).
I would figure that the ship was either reverse engineered for all the alien / future-tech goodies that she picked up over the years, or they were forced to decommission here cause the ship had taken a far worse pounding than anyone knew at the time; basically Starfleet totally her out, rather than put the resources in put her back to OEM.
As for the next Voyager being a Sovie, I'm not to sure about that. I'd suspect she'd end up being another Intrepid class ship-- if anything, I'd think Janeway would push for another Intrepid class.
As for the next Voyager being a Sovie, I'm not to sure about that. I'd suspect she'd end up being another Intrepid class ship-- if anything, I'd think Janeway would push for another Intrepid class.
The ship was subjected to pounding over the course of 7 years but it was also repaired and hull plates were restored by the crew.
The ship is not going to fly itself apart, nor is it anywhere close to flying apart.
Any forced decommissioning would be an utterly dumb move from SF.
Have the ship undergo a retrofit if needed coupled with the modifications the crew did over the course of 7 years (which would be implemented in all other Intrepid class starships) and sent back into active duty once they had an extended vacation.
Chakotay can assume command of the ship if SF offers him the position.
I agree the writers never portrayed him too well in later seasons of the show, but he made it to the rank of Commander for a reason.
A Sovereign class starship isn't really that much newer design from an Intrepid class.
Both classes came after FC with the Borg and both were probably part of the 'anti Borg weaponry' project that was mentioned in mid TNG, so there is no reason to jump from one design to the other because both are valid.
The ship is not going to fly itself apart, nor is it anywhere close to flying apart.
Any forced decommissioning would be an utterly dumb move from SF.
Have the ship undergo a retrofit if needed coupled with the modifications the crew did over the course of 7 years (which would be implemented in all other Intrepid class starships) and sent back into active duty once they had an extended vacation.
Chakotay can assume command of the ship if SF offers him the position.
I agree the writers never portrayed him too well in later seasons of the show, but he made it to the rank of Commander for a reason.
A Sovereign class starship isn't really that much newer design from an Intrepid class.
Both classes came after FC with the Borg and both were probably part of the 'anti Borg weaponry' project that was mentioned in mid TNG, so there is no reason to jump from one design to the other because both are valid.
They have.
I don't recall which one specifically mentioned this, but Starfleet Intelligence had the new tech (both Borg and Future) removed for analysis so Voyager is now just another Intrepid class vessel. The exceptions are of course the Gel-Packs which Starfleet itself had put on Voyager and Astrometrics which Seven and Harry built. Presumably the tech was removed for reverse engineering and possible mass deployment on other ships when ready.
I would have thought that upon returning home, the ship would be studied and stripped of its new Delta Quadrant technology so that Starfleet can learn how to replicate it or reverse engineer it and incorperate it into future starships. The Voyager crew would be disembarked, the senior staff debriefed, the Maquis crew dismissed and given aslyum or forgiven as it were because of the Dominion War, while Voyager its self would be refitted. I don't see why Starfleet would make the ship a museum at the time Voyager came home seeing as how they were short on resorces and shipts after the Dominion War. They would probably want Voyager reincorpeted into the Fleet. IIRC Voyager--and thus the Intrepid Class was supposed to be state of the line at the start of the series and I don't see why it wouldn't be seven years into service. After the refit I could see Starfleet re-assigning a new crew to Voyager or potentially the old one and giving them a new mission. Janeway for some inane reason is given a promotion to Admiral and has influence in Starfleet Command. Maybe Starfleet does this similar to the way Admiral Kirk was busted down to Captain and given command of the new Enterprise. Its never really made sense to me why Janeway was promoted in Nemesis other than simply give her a cool cameo.
That's exactly what happened in the novels. Except the crew wasn't completely reassigned just mostly. Harry, Paris, and Chaoktay are still aboard.
^ Ok...well I haven't read the Voyager re-launch novels yet so that was mostly a logical speculative on my part
On the other hand, with the fleet digesting the buildup in commissioned ships for the Dominion War, is Star Fleet really looking for yet another Intrepid to feed? Serving as a proud example of Star Fleet not blundering aggressively into a war they were hopelessly unprepared for might well be more valuable than transporting delegates to conferences to see if they can explain why every shuttle crashes into a spacetime anomaly or other normal peacetime Fleet duties.
Irrelevant.
SF and the Federation have ample amount of resources at their disposal, and Voyager if anything would require less resources due to the fact the crew did all kinds of modifications and power conservation upgrades to the vessel.
Besides, I doubt they experienced that much of a buildup of commissioned ships during the DW, and if SF was nearing the end of recovering from the war by the time VOY returned (which wouldn't be a stretch since the war ended 2 years before the ship made it back home), then having one more ship wouldn't make much of a difference.
I'd still think the ship would make a greater "difference" if turned into a museum. If not for any other reason, then because she was so unique.
And not just in the tourist attraction or historic landmark sense. She'd also be a logistics nightmare with all those modifications and upgrades and whatnot: the only people capable of doing maintenance on her would be the original crew, most of whom would no doubt head for early retirement to write holobooks of their adventures.
Wartime experiences would also make it very attractive for Starfleet to scrap the less than successful designs and to concentrate on what was found workable. We don't hear much praise for the Intrepid class in DS9: the only example is doing courier duty and staying away from the battlefields.
Granted that there doesn't seem to be onscreen evidence of Starfleet manufacturing any new vessels during the war to cover losses. But no doubt such construction was begun when the war began to loom, and the results would be commissioned towards the end of the conflict or after it (it taking something like four years to churn out even a small Intrepid, apparently). The buildup of ships would come after the end of the blissfully shorter than expected war, then, allowing the retirement of prewar types even if they weren't all that worn down yet. Sheer desire for commonality might see Starfleet finally drop most of the older classes.
Timo Saloniemi
And not just in the tourist attraction or historic landmark sense. She'd also be a logistics nightmare with all those modifications and upgrades and whatnot: the only people capable of doing maintenance on her would be the original crew, most of whom would no doubt head for early retirement to write holobooks of their adventures.
Wartime experiences would also make it very attractive for Starfleet to scrap the less than successful designs and to concentrate on what was found workable. We don't hear much praise for the Intrepid class in DS9: the only example is doing courier duty and staying away from the battlefields.
Granted that there doesn't seem to be onscreen evidence of Starfleet manufacturing any new vessels during the war to cover losses. But no doubt such construction was begun when the war began to loom, and the results would be commissioned towards the end of the conflict or after it (it taking something like four years to churn out even a small Intrepid, apparently). The buildup of ships would come after the end of the blissfully shorter than expected war, then, allowing the retirement of prewar types even if they weren't all that worn down yet. Sheer desire for commonality might see Starfleet finally drop most of the older classes.
Timo Saloniemi
I find it hard to buy that the modifications did to Voyager by her crew would be a logistical nightmare.
Torres probably kept a list of the upgrades/modifications (I mean that would be the most logical course of action) which would be very simple to follow by SF engineers if she made a compilation on a single PADD (or 7 can do that in no time) and there you go.
Voyager was turned into a museum in an alternate timeline.
Given the fact the ship returned home 16 years ahead of schedule, I doubt she would be turned into a museum.
They had a reason to do so in the alternate timeline because
the ship was practically on a long range mission for 23 years.
After only 7 years of service though, it's unnecessary and a loss of a perfectly good ship that proved it's worth in the DQ.
I doubt that SF would not want to use more of that design.
And we know that other shows rarely used designs from other shows unless they were already over.
Torres probably kept a list of the upgrades/modifications (I mean that would be the most logical course of action) which would be very simple to follow by SF engineers if she made a compilation on a single PADD (or 7 can do that in no time) and there you go.
Voyager was turned into a museum in an alternate timeline.
Given the fact the ship returned home 16 years ahead of schedule, I doubt she would be turned into a museum.
They had a reason to do so in the alternate timeline because
the ship was practically on a long range mission for 23 years.
After only 7 years of service though, it's unnecessary and a loss of a perfectly good ship that proved it's worth in the DQ.
I doubt that SF would not want to use more of that design.
And we know that other shows rarely used designs from other shows unless they were already over.
It doesn't make sense for Voyager to be turned into a museum seven years into its service life. That is why I suggested a refit make more sense then retiring the vessel and making it a museum.
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