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Tom Hardy’s ‘ST:Nemesis’ screen test

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watch Hardy’s screen test for the role with Stewart, matched against the final scene as it appeared in the feature film. Without the prosthetics to make his face look more like Picard’s — and a costume that appears to have inspired the makers of DreamWorks Animation’s*Megamind — Hardy brings some fascinating shadings to the character, making him more vulnerable and damaged.
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Is that the set of ENT?

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I think this is the first time we've seen jean Luc Picard shot digitally with an HD camera (not film).
ST:Nemesis special edition blu-ray circa 2015?
 
It's ironic that now Tom Hardy would have the box office pull to make Nemesis a success without making any changes to the film.

Would be interesting to see if there's a rise of DVD sales for Nemesis after Inception and TDKR.
 
jefferiestubes8 said:
ST:Nemesis special edition blu-ray circa 2015?
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Only if they went over Stuart Baird's head, and completely re-edited the film. Piece together all the near 3 hours combined footage shot, choose less flatly delivered scenes and see if there are earlier takes, in which the TNG cast actually had fun. Deliver a Fan Edition rather than a Director's Edition. We've always had the version its Director wanted and it didn't go down too well!
 
ChristopherPike said:
jefferiestubes8 said:
ST:Nemesis special edition blu-ray circa 2015?
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Deliver a Fan Edition rather than a Director's Edition. We've always had the version its Director wanted and it didn't go down too well!
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Well since the Star Trek: The Next Generation Motion Picture Collection on Blu-ray has been out since 2009 and the Star Trek: Original Motion Picture Collection had a lot of complaints about the remastering with heavy use of Digital Noise reduction resulting in undesired visual artifacting and only 1 of the films having a 4k remaster (STIITWOK) you can bet Paramount will be re-releasing all of the films around 2016 in 2 deluxe remaster Blu-ray special edition collections about a year after STXIII.
 
I always found it a shame, that Jerry Goldsmith provided a beautiful but powerful piece of music that was supposed to be a reaction to Data's death... and they basically trimmed it down, and shoehorned it in halfway through the end credits where few would ever hear it.

I also missed the slow build-up to a Star Trek film, with the traditional moving starfield opening credits.

Little changes like that, and any alternate takes that Baird rejected because they didn't fit with the downbeat mood he was going for, might make the world of difference.
 
Moving to the appropriate forum in just a moment - hold onto your phase pistols...
 
JarodRussell said:
It's ironic that now Tom Hardy would have the box office pull to make Nemesis a success without making any changes to the film.

Would be interesting to see if there's a rise of DVD sales for Nemesis after Inception and TDKR.
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Man I was just talking to my brother about this. With the obvious success he has recently had and recognition with being part of the Batman series he would have been a good pull for Nemesis. I admittedly had never heard of Tom Hardy until Nemesis but looking back I do remember his face from small scenes in Black Hawk Down and the Band of Brothers HBO series. I understand he has had a myriad of personal problems over the last few years so it is good to see him let his talent shine through.
 
ChristopherPike said:
jefferiestubes8 said:
ST:Nemesis special edition blu-ray circa 2015?
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Only if they went over Stuart Baird's head, and completely re-edited the film. Piece together all the near 3 hours combined footage shot, choose less flatly delivered scenes and see if there are earlier takes, in which the TNG cast actually had fun. Deliver a Fan Edition rather than a Director's Edition. We've always had the version its Director wanted and it didn't go down too well!
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Man no kidding. I was one of the few that didn't think it was THAT bad of a film, but it would have been so much better if Baird hadn't chopped so many good scenes out.
 
Hmmm, that was quite interesting. Now, I still don't think Hardy was quite the right man to play a clone of Patrick Stewart. And maybe hindsight is playing a part here, given how talented we now know him to be. But I think you could definitely see that he had something in that audition. You can see why they cast him and why the cast were telling interviewers that he was going to go on to be a big star. And - while their assertions that the movie was going to be great may have been wrong - they were right there.
 
Captaindemotion said:
Hmmm, that was quite interesting. Now, I still don't think Hardy was quite the right man to play a clone of Patrick Stewart. And maybe hindsight is playing a part here, given how talented we now know him to be. But I think you could definitely see that he had something in that audition. You can see why they cast him and why the cast were telling interviewers that he was going to go on to be a big star. And - while their assertions that the movie was going to be great may have been wrong - they were right there.
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The flaw with Nemsis wasn't that it was Tom Hardy playing the clone, it was really the concept of the clone villain some how being the leader of a band of space orcs that can build super death ships with rocks and pickaxes and just randomly stumble upon prototype androids and he gets his jollies by telepathicly raping chicks.
 
I remember reading at the time that Kevin McKidd (Trainspotting, Rome, Gray's Anatomy) also auditioned for the role. Wonder if his screen test will ever turn up. It's not unheard of for unsuccessful auditionees' screen tests to resurface - there are some on the DVDs of Superman the Movie and The Godfather.

Though I can't imagine that Nemesis will ever have the same sort of 'completist' interest that those movies have...
 
Captaindemotion said:
I remember reading at the time that Kevin McKidd (Trainspotting, Rome, Gray's Anatomy) also auditioned for the role. Wonder if his screen test will ever turn up. It's not unheard of for unsuccessful auditionees' screen tests to resurface - there are some on the DVDs of Superman the Movie and The Godfather.

Though I can't imagine that Nemesis will ever have the same sort of 'completist' interest that those movies have...
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I don't know about that. I was under that assumption that the choice ultimately came down to Hardy and Marsters.

It can be argued who is the better actor, but I think Marsters would have made a better pseudo JLP.

That said, of all the bazillion things wrong with Nemesis, Hardy was never one of them.

And really, I wouldn't mind seeing him pick up the Picard mantle again. He and Pine had fantastic bromance chemistry in This Means War.

Just sayin. ;)
 
^ Did Marsters actually audition? I thought he was just a fan-fave, as well as someone named by people like Marina Sirtis, somewhat after the event?

I remember at the time that someone did name McKidd as an auditonee and there was quite a detailed description of his flight over and audition. I can imagine him being on their shortlist, with those cheekbones and the shape of his nose and jawline. Plus he's a Brit.
 
Interesting that Patrick Stewart did that screen test with him while in costume.

In addition to Hardy and Marsters, I know that Michael Shanks auditioned. I can't see him as Shinzon at all, but I would like to see that audition too.
 
It's pretty neat to see Tom Hardy on an Enterprise set, for sure. But upon comparing the screen test to the final product, Shinzon seems more nuanced and concerned while engaging Picard in a true mental duel in the former, more b-movie and insincere in the latter. I almost expect him to twirl his mustache, and yes, I blame Baird for that direction.
 
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