The unseen Enterprise refit

[Ottens]

Hi everyone, this is Nick of Forgotten Trek. I'm working on a new article about the "unseen Enterprise refit", similar to the story I wrote about "The Unseen Enterprise-D" in 2019. I'd like to ask your suggestions for artwork, floor plans, etc. I can include from individual artists, comic books, schematics, and anything else you can think of that shows interiors of the Enterprise we didn't see in TMP, TWOK or TSFS.

So far, I have:

• @Donny's Refit Enterprise Interiors
• David A. Kimble's cutaway
• Lora (at the time Shane) Johnson's Mr Scott’s Guide to the Enterprise
• Monte R. Johnjulio's Constitution Class Starship Refit Blueprints
• David Schmidt's U.S.S Enterprise NCC-1701A Deck Plans

Please let me know if you have other recommendations!

 

[David cgc]

The Roddenberry Archive's most recent sizzle reel has a clip of what seems to be a saucer-section cargo hold at 6:33.

Neil Smith's model with high-detail window boxes (based, at least in part, on the Strategic Design deckplans) has been pulled off-line since he joined the Roddenberry Archive team, but this Internet Archive page will allow you to access renders of the rooms he built (use the arrow buttons on the large image if clicking the thumbnails doesn't work).

Neil's version is far more detailed, but I also built some window interiors for Dennis Bailey's 3D model of the refit, with color schemes and variant rooms for the refit and the -A (the entire model had two versions with a TMP and a TUC color scheme, and the officer's lounge/dining room, warp core, and shuttlebay could be switched out individually). I also based mine mostly on the SD deckplans.

 

[Starship]

The Roddenberry Archive's most recent sizzle reel has a clip of what seems to be a saucer-section cargo hold at 6:33.

Neil Smith's model with high-detail window boxes (based, at least in part, on the Strategic Design deckplans) has been pulled off-line since he joined the Roddenberry Archive team, but this Internet Archive page will allow you to access renders of the rooms he built (use the arrow buttons on the large image if clicking the thumbnails doesn't work).

Neil's version is far more detailed, but I also built some window interiors for Dennis Bailey's 3D model of the refit, with color schemes and variant rooms for the refit and the -A (the entire model had two versions with a TMP and a TUC color scheme, and the officer's lounge/dining room, warp core, and shuttlebay could be switched out individually). I also based mine mostly on the SD deckplans.

I forgot about your release Gian!!
This post made me to remember the old meshes available at Foundation 3d: several meshes of rooms and other interiors... Were those meshes yours? I don´t remember...

 

[Ottens]

Neil Smith's model with high-detail window boxes (based, at least in part, on the Strategic Design deckplans) has been pulled off-line since he joined the Roddenberry Archive team, but this Internet Archive page will allow you to access renders of the rooms he built (use the arrow buttons on the large image if clicking the thumbnails doesn't work).

Some of those would be perfect! But I'm a little reluctant to use any of the pictures, since he took them offline...

I found another take on the arboretum (botanical garden) by Mark Hennessy-Barrett on YouTube:

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[David cgc]

Some of those would be perfect! But I'm a little reluctant to use any of the pictures, since he took them offline...

I assume he was just withdrawing the model from sale, and not trying to memory-hole all the pictures. I know he was posting WIP shots on Foundation3D, which is sadly defunct, but I imagine they'd still be there if the site was still live. I thought he had a thread on another forum, as well, but I can't turn it up if he did. I did find an album of all those images that he posted on Facebook which are still available publicly. Probably worth a DM to ask if he'd be okay with the images being used, it's an above-the-fold hit for Neil Smith and Enterprise-refit on google.

Plus, from the pictures they've posted of the model in the years since, I know the Roddenberry Archive's version has been revised and built on from what he'd done before on his own time, so I don't think it'd be any different from using pictures from Donny's projects before they transitioned to being official.

 

[publiusr]

I think the Kimble plans are a tad off…

Enterprise Evolution from TOS to TMP

Plus the slight changes for the 1701A (a small change to the secondary hull deflector grid and the changed markings). Do include the “ten-forward” like area we saw fleshed out at Fan Art.

www.trekbbs.com

TOS Enterprise Internals

Personally, I'd put the TFF lounge right at the forward end of the saucer, where it seems to be. Depending on how much you want to cheat what was seen on-screen, you can give the room smaller windows and put it at the leading edge of either of the window clusters, or put the windows behind...

www.trekbbs.com

No two Refit nacelles are the same?

My Star Trek Thread - Page 53

Oh, forgot to mention the inset bridge picture has the bigger docking pod port.

forums.scifi-meshes.com

 

[blssdwlf]

I think the Kimble plans are a tad off…

So is the movie thread you also linked to. We know that the production of the movie interior sets do not line up with or fit into the exteriors so you're not going to get any plan (with maybe the exception of the TMP bridge) that will match the TMP Enterprise sets as filmed. So all non-TMP Bridge plans are going to make compromises to fit the hull and being "a tad off" is a feature and not a problem, IMHO.

 

[publiusr]

We know that the production of the movie interior sets do not line up with or fit into the exteriors..

The nacelles were what I was referring to—I think Kimble had them a touch high…Yotsuya’s sketch has them lowered a bit IIRC.

 

[blssdwlf]

The nacelles were what I was referring to—I think Kimble had them a touch high…Yotsuya’s sketch has them lowered a bit IIRC.

I see what you're getting at. Yeah Kimble's blueprint has the top of the nacelle a bit higher than the highest point on the saucer.