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The Hangover Part II: Discussion and Spoilers

Grade the movie.

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Trekker4747

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In The Hangover Part II, Phil (Bradley Cooper), Stu (Ed Helms), Alan (Zach Galifianakis) and Doug (Justin Bartha) travel to exotic Thailand for Stu's wedding. After the unforgettable bachelor party in Las Vegas, Stu is taking no chances and has opted for a safe, subdued pre-wedding brunch. However, things don't always go as planned. What happens in Vegas may stay in Vegas, but what happens in Bangkok can't even be imagined.

Midnight releases tonight for a wide release tomorrow.

Looks promising to me even if it also looks to be a note-for-note remake of the original.

Discuss here!

Rotten Tomatoes as of this writing has the movie at 34% based on 84 reviews, however not enough for the site to give a consensus
 
I'm seeing it tonight although I don't know why. The trailer looked awful and I can't imagine it being anything other than a complete rehash of the first one.
 
It's just what I expected. Had a few funny moments but otherwise, it was a rehash of the first film. I didn't hate it but I certainly didn't like it. It pretty much threw the goodwill from the first film out the window. This was a sequel that didn't need to be made.

Bradley Cooper looked like he was sleepwalking through this film at times although I would be too if I were making this movie. Ken Jeong was pretty good and the film had more of his character. Nice to see Paul Giamatti, who was pretty much wasted. I refuse to believe though that Doug and Stu would still be friends with Alan after pulling this crap again.

Like I said, a sequel that shouldn't have been made. But it will still make a ton of money and produce yet another bad, unneeded sequel.
 
Sort of what I was afraid of, a sequel was a sure-thing given the runaway popularity and success of the first movie (which I still think is awesomely hilarious) but the professional reviews for this movie so far haven't been great and the WOM on it I've not heard much of yet.

My biggest concern is the extreme change of locale, going to Thailand seems like a huge leap of things when certainly another city in America or even in the Western world could have been selected. New York, Paris the Netherlands, there's a number of cities they could have done.

I'll likely go see this Saturday evening with my buddy and will post my review that evening, if it makes me laugh half as much as the original does I'll be happy but I'm not looking for this to be a "classic comedy" like the original was.

At Rotten Tomatoes it now has an official score of 32% based on 135 reviews (23% for the "Top Critics", 35 reviews), but a 94% based on audience reviews/ratings.
 
This is the second movie this summer I am in no rush to see (Pirates being the other one so far). It sounds like Hangover II would ruin the great that was Hangover and I'm not sure I'm really interested in that. I might wait for DVD but man I wish there were quality movies coming out lately.

Still looking forward to Cars II
 
I never understood the fuss made about the first one tbh. Went to see it just because we were bored and there was nothing else on. It was mildly amusing with a few good bits, but really it was nothing special and I'd never bother watching it again. I don't get how some folk made out like it was some comedy classic.

As others say, this just looks like a dirty cash in, typical inferior sequel. So I don't think I'll bother myself
 
Yeah, I can't say I'm the least bit interested in the sequel. Not with the reviews saying it's basically the same movie again.
 
My biggest concern is the extreme change of locale, going to Thailand seems like a huge leap of things when certainly another city in America or even in the Western world could have been selected. New York, Paris the Netherlands, there's a number of cities they could have done.

Considering it's a borderline note-for-note remake, the setting is the only redeeming quality. It's the only risk they took.
 
I was amused in spots, but this reminds of the second Smokey and the Bandit movie. Hopefully they don't do a third movie with just two of them or something. That being said, I do kind of want to take a trip to Thailand now.
 
I was amused in spots, but this reminds of the second Smokey and the Bandit movie. Hopefully they don't do a third movie with just two of them or something. That being said, I do kind of want to take a trip to Thailand now.

I have a feeling that none of the big three actors would have done this movie but they were contractually obligated to do it. It might suck but at least they'll have another hit on their resumes.

If they do a third one, the obvious choice would be for Alan to be the one who gets married. That could be funny and different but if they write it with the same non-effort they did with this movie, it will be another waste of money.

One amusing thing...in Alan's room there, he has a bunch of the old rubber WWF action figures from the 80s, as well as the old WWF posters from back in the day. The most noticeable one is of the late Macho Man Randy Savage.
 
Jeez, what's wrong with you naysayers?

A-

Yes, it was a copy of the first film. The title should have been a giveaway.

It wasn't as funny, but it was still funny in its own right.

Try this: Try sitting through any amount of "Bridesmaids" and then come back and see HO2 again. It will be breath of fresh comic air by comparison.
 
The Hangover Part II

My Grade: C

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When I first started seeing the trailers for this movie a few months ago I was excited, considering I found the first movie to be one of the more original comedies -and the funniest- in years and still highly enjoy it to this day. Somehow a lot was lost in between the first movie and the sequel and I'd mostly chalk it up to the movie trying to "top itself."

The Hangover Part II takes place the chronological time of two years since the first movie with Stu now the one getting married to a Taiwanese woman he's met in the intervening time (not mention is made what became of Heather Graham's hooker with the heart of gold from the first movie) in her native land, also back is one his best friends, Phil a slick-talking pretty-boy and Doug the group's fourth wheel on a bicycle; the third wheel being Doug's brother-in-law Alan a man-child with a knack for causing trouble and having no clue on how to function in society.

Two nights before his weeding Stu and the rest of the gang heavy with Stu's future brother-in-law, a child prodigy, are having a beach-side toast when the movie flashes forward to the morning after with the guys in a seedy Bangkok hotel room with a severed finger, a shaved Alan, a tattooed Stu and the Chinese mobster from the first movie the brother-in-law is missing and must be found before they can return for Stu's wedding.

The movie's pattern more-or-less follows the same as the first one but is also paced a bit differently, it takes it a bit longer to get to the "morning after" and I didn't feel like the whole thing built up quite as well. The movie also tries too hard to be raunchier than the first.

I've no problem with raunchy humor but in the first movie it was mostly absent aside from that discovered photos on the camera at the end, in this movie there's a heck of a lot of male nudity, an encounter with a Ladyboy and a heck of a lot more raunchiness that, frankly, doesn't fit with the themes the first movie had, they also seemed to take all of the character traits of the guys and crank them up to Eleven, sort of like the evolution of sitcom characters between the first season of a TV series and the last season.

In the first movie Phil is a charismatic, big-talking, pretty boy whom we're eventually shown is a loving husband and father. In the second movie Phil is a complete jackass.

In the first movie Stu is a introverted, restrained, weenus prone to over-reacting. In this movie he over-over reacts and is prone to a lot more screaming and exaggerated expressions. He also freaks out at the sight of blood following a gunshot (later revealed to be a graze) this is a man who is a doctor.

In the first movie Alan is nothing more than a man-child with poor social skills, described as being "all there, just different." In this movie he's Sitcom Wacky Neighbor #204 with his various oddities with social norms cranked to high to the point one wonders why he isn't in a mental hospital.

Then there's Doug who is really just "there" this time around, sort-of, it would've been interesting (and probably refreshing, to put him in with the core group this go-around,)

In the first movie it's easy to forgive Phil for the way he acts all movie when we see him at the end with his wife and kid because we get that he's just acting brash with his friends, we feel for Stu because we can see he's in a bad relationship and just needs to open up, Alan we feel for because we see him as just an "odd guy" who never fits in with anyone. Here, everyone is an idiot and an asshole.

It'd also would have been nice if the movie didn't follow the first one note-for-note so precisely. The flashback to several days before, Alan being the cause of their memory-loss (and, really, after this time it'd be hard to take him seriously at all), the "realization" of where the missing person is, and the set-up for missing camera footage over the end credits.

Somehow there's just not much build-up and payoff in the movie, it takes too long to get to the next day, it's hard to care for the missing person considering the thin connections he has to the group -or the importance of his return, and the antics of their night just aren't as grand. It doesn't quite live-up to the taser scene from the first movie, meeting Mike Tyson, antics with the tiger, etc. It, for me, didn't work.

I grade this movie a "C" which, on my scale, is pretty low. It's about as low as I get before the movie starts getting terrible, I don't see myself getting this on DVD and, well, I didn't really enjoy it. Mostly indifferent to it. It seems, to me The Hangover was a gem in Tod Phillip's series of films, as "Due Date" was lame and I was never a huge fan of "Old School" (another see it once and you're good movie.)

If you're a fan of the first Hangover movie this one will not live-up to it, again, I can deal with the almost note-for-note rehash of the plot (that was expected) but the movie lost a touch of humor, "humanity" and a touch of plausibility. And, really, I don't think the setting worked for me either mostly because I, personally, don't see Bangkok as the "lose yourself there" sort-of place that Vegas is seen as.

The Mike Tyson cameo singing the expected song at the end, however, was great.
 
In the first movie Stu is a introverted, restrained, weenus prone to over-reacting. In this movie he over-over reacts and is prone to a lot more screaming and exaggerated expressions. He also freaks out at the sight of blood following a gunshot (later revealed to be a graze) this is a man who is a doctor.

He's a dentist! ;)

You know, there's a good chance Stu probably picked up an STD from that ladyboy...I'm sure his wife will find out after she gets back from their honeymoon.

Also found it jarring that the Teddy wasn't upset that he lost a finger.

As inexcuseable as Alan's actions were in the first movie, at least in his own stupid way he thought he was doing something good. In the movie, he was a jealous, malicious psycho and asshole.

Then there's Doug who is really just "there" this time around, sort-of, it would've been interesting (and probably refreshing, to put him in with the core group this go-around,)

I thought Justin Bertha was good in the first one and was disappointed he didn't join the group in this go-around. But his performance was dull in this one, not that he had much to do. Bradley Cooper was sleepwalking in a lot of this film.
 
You know, there's a good chance Stu probably picked up an STD from that ladyboy...I'm sure his wife will find out after she gets back from their honeymoon.

Indeed. A Bangkok ladyboy working in a seedy stripclub/brothel? Probably filled with STDs. Was the ladyboy stuff really needed? Did we really need to emasculate Stu's character like that?

I sort of wonder if the ladyboys in the movie were real ladyboys or women with prosthetics.
 
Okay, I was think today about what I would do if I were writing the third movie, I've only got it partly worked out so bear with me or feel free to ad on.

It's another two years down the road, the presumptive time when the sequel will come out (the movie made $118m opening weekend domestically compared to it's $86m production budget) and this time Alan is the one getting married.

Not being one who's exactly "on the market" Alan is getting married to a Russian mail-order bride but through his well-to-do parents Alan is throwing a huge, lavish, wedding. Dying for a taste of revenge Stu decides to thrown Alan's bachelor party; Doug and Phil try and to stop him but eventually they go along with it.

Stu's plan is to invite Alan over to the dentist office for a toast before they go out and have fun. Alan's drink will be spiked with a drug Stu has on hand in the office, they plan to put Alan through hell while he's out of it, but unknown to Stu there's a leaky NOS valve in his office which combines with the alcohol he and the other guys are drinking, as well as the drugs spiked in Alan's, to send them off in their night of antics.

They toast, camera pans to the time-lapse of the night passing, bright flash to the following morning with the trio waking up in a drunk tank in TJ, their wallets, passports and phones are all gone all they have on them when they get out of the tank is some change, a bus stub, and a key to a storage locker back in the LA bus terminal.

I've not quite settled on who the missing person would be but, fuck it, we'll make it Doug again.
 
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Love the idea of the guys deciding to get the jump on Alan by drugging him and having the whole thing backfire.
 
You know, there's a good chance Stu probably picked up an STD from that ladyboy...I'm sure his wife will find out after she gets back from their honeymoon.

Indeed. A Bangkok ladyboy working in a seedy stripclub/brothel? Probably filled with STDs. Was the ladyboy stuff really needed? Did we really need to emasculate Stu's character like that?

I sort of wonder if the ladyboys in the movie were real ladyboys or women with prosthetics.
Well based on the cast list I think that she was a real MtF transsexual. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasmin_Lee
 
You know, there's a good chance Stu probably picked up an STD from that ladyboy...I'm sure his wife will find out after she gets back from their honeymoon.

Indeed. A Bangkok ladyboy working in a seedy stripclub/brothel? Probably filled with STDs. Was the ladyboy stuff really needed? Did we really need to emasculate Stu's character like that?

I sort of wonder if the ladyboys in the movie were real ladyboys or women with prosthetics.
Well based on the cast list I think that she was a real MtF transsexual. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasmin_Lee

Yeah, as I thought about it that's pretty much all it could have been considering that it's just so wrong and evil for movies Rated R to show a nude female crotch -even if, I suspect, it's covered by a prosthetic penis- but it's totally cool to show several penises in one scene.
 
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