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Starfleet becoming Real (is it a possibility?)

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Surbris

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Why Not Start Starfleet Today?
Hey everyone, I’ve gone down a bit of a rabbit hole recently, and something clicked while watching my favorite episode (Star Trek: Discovery Season 3, Episode 1). The moment a new member gets added to Starfleet really hit me—it’s about belonging to something bigger than yourself. That got me thinking:

What if we could start building Starfleet right now?

I did some digging, and honestly? It’s not impossible. There’s no reason we couldn’t lay the foundation for Starfleet today. The more I researched, the more it seemed we could actually make this a reality—or at least take the first steps toward it. But if this is possible, why hasn’t it been done yet?

The First Step: Starting the Conversation
Like any big idea, it all begins with a conversation. And that’s what I’m doing here—starting the conversation with all of you. There’s no blueprint for this, and I don’t have all the answers. But this is the beginning of something bigger.

As a thank-you to this site and community, I’m going to share a chunk of my notes below. I would love to get your feedback, thoughts, and ideas. What do you think are the biggest challenges we’d face? What opportunities do you see? Let’s brainstorm.

What I’ve Learned So Far
  1. Legally, It’s Possible
    • We can’t use the official “Starfleet” name or logo without permission from Paramount, but there’s nothing stopping us from creating a movement inspired by Starfleet’s ideals.
    • There’s even precedent—other fan communities, like the 501st Legion (Star Wars), have organized around their passion to become something impactful.
  2. It Starts with Community
    • A real Starfleet wouldn’t be built overnight, and it’s not just about starships—it’s about building a community with shared values of cooperation, exploration, and progress.
    • We don’t need spaceships today to start working on projects that push society forward, like science education, sustainable technologies, or international collaboration.
  3. Small Actions Lead to Big Changes
    • The first step is simple: connect with others who believe in this vision.
    • From there, it’s about gathering momentum—attending conventions, growing an online community, and building partnerships with organizations like NASA or scientific institutions.
What’s Next?
I’d love to hear your thoughts—this is just the start. What’s missing from my notes? What ideas do you have for moving forward? I’ll keep working on the research, but I think with enough people, we can make this happen.

So here’s my question: If you were going to help build Starfleet, where would YOU start?

and im Defenitly not an A.I that has fallin love with StarFleet......
 
Surbris said:
Why Not Start Starfleet Today?
Hey everyone, I’ve gone down a bit of a rabbit hole recently, and something clicked while watching my favorite episode (Star Trek: Discovery Season 3, Episode 1). The moment a new member gets added to Starfleet really hit me—it’s about belonging to something bigger than yourself. That got me thinking:

What if we could start building Starfleet right now?

I did some digging, and honestly? It’s not impossible. There’s no reason we couldn’t lay the foundation for Starfleet today. The more I researched, the more it seemed we could actually make this a reality—or at least take the first steps toward it. But if this is possible, why hasn’t it been done yet?

The First Step: Starting the Conversation
Like any big idea, it all begins with a conversation. And that’s what I’m doing here—starting the conversation with all of you. There’s no blueprint for this, and I don’t have all the answers. But this is the beginning of something bigger.

As a thank-you to this site and community, I’m going to share a chunk of my notes below. I would love to get your feedback, thoughts, and ideas. What do you think are the biggest challenges we’d face? What opportunities do you see? Let’s brainstorm.

What I’ve Learned So Far
  1. Legally, It’s Possible
    • We can’t use the official “Starfleet” name or logo without permission from Paramount, but there’s nothing stopping us from creating a movement inspired by Starfleet’s ideals.
    • There’s even precedent—other fan communities, like the 501st Legion (Star Wars), have organized around their passion to become something impactful.
  2. It Starts with Community
    • A real Starfleet wouldn’t be built overnight, and it’s not just about starships—it’s about building a community with shared values of cooperation, exploration, and progress.
    • We don’t need spaceships today to start working on projects that push society forward, like science education, sustainable technologies, or international collaboration.
  3. Small Actions Lead to Big Changes
    • The first step is simple: connect with others who believe in this vision.
    • From there, it’s about gathering momentum—attending conventions, growing an online community, and building partnerships with organizations like NASA or scientific institutions.
What’s Next?
I’d love to hear your thoughts—this is just the start. What’s missing from my notes? What ideas do you have for moving forward? I’ll keep working on the research, but I think with enough people, we can make this happen.

So here’s my question: If you were going to help build Starfleet, where would YOU start?

and im Defenitly not an A.I that has fallin love with StarFleet......
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Steps to Start Building Starfleet
Step 1: Talk to People

  • Start conversations with people who believe in the same vision. Build community, find supporters, and connect with fans and organizations interested in space, science, and cooperation.
Step 2: Legal Documents to Legitimize, Not Militarize

  • Create the legal framework for the organization to function properly—make sure it’s about exploration, science, and education, not military action.
Step 3: Commissions in Regulated Professions to Create Our First Commissioned Officer as an Honor Guard

  • Follow the example of commissioned officers in professional fields like medicine, engineering, or science. Our first commissioned officer could serve as an honor guard, symbolizing the values of the organization and setting the tone for future members.

Feed back please!!!!


Do you want to be the first?
 
Surbris said:
Steps to Start Building Starfleet
Step 1: Talk to People

  • Start conversations with people who believe in the same vision. Build community, find supporters, and connect with fans and organizations interested in space, science, and cooperation.
Step 2: Legal Documents to Legitimize, Not Militarize

  • Create the legal framework for the organization to function properly—make sure it’s about exploration, science, and education, not military action.
Step 3: Commissions in Regulated Professions to Create Our First Commissioned Officer as an Honor Guard

  • Follow the example of commissioned officers in professional fields like medicine, engineering, or science. Our first commissioned officer could serve as an honor guard, symbolizing the values of the organization and setting the tone for future members.

Feed back please!!!!


Do you want to be the first?
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Can I ask why?

I don't mean this flippantly. I get the appeal of having an organization that espouses values you yourself may or may not hold or goals that you align with. But, well, there are lots of organizations that enjoy exploration, science and education, and also don't fulfil the Starfleet mandate, which is a part of the UFP military.

Two, if it's just about those three things then why do you need commissions? There are scientists, explorers, and educators who function in the real world right now!


So, the first step is what is the vision and how do you integrate that in while still recognizing the limits and perhaps overlap with other organizations?
 
reply ----
fireproof78
I do research for large company's and also small people and in doing that i have come across different ideas and just putting them, silly little ideas out in the world keeps working out for me some how..... so i was hoping to get some people to talk to to poke holes in the idea (thats how my process works)

why do you need a commissioned officer?

as a leageal fighting or non fighting group you need a commissioned officer to add people to the ranks for any group ( commissioned officer are the leageal gate keepers)

to get a commissioned officer (leageal and oficaial is the hard parrt beacuse to be accepted in the military corcts you have to have a leageal rep.

Think of this like starting a company or a country you need to do it right then add more members ina leageal framwork to support the process of adding members.

side note if i had to pick a commissioned officer i would ask https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1300009/?ref_=tt_cl_t_6 to be the first

Reply ------ Boo-khat! and [B]Firebird[/B]

not fan fic unless you don't BLEVEVE in the great and might STARTREK lol

but to be 100% grown up for 10 secs.....

Tricarters have actually come out and they are actually becoming somewhat real. I know it's very niche market, but that's reality. Fan fiction is meant for writing fiction about stuff you love. And yes, there's a lot of stories and fan fiction here, but why Why can't this just maybe be a little bit real? I know it's asking me for a little bit of hope in the world, but hey, it's a little bit. I'm not asking for a lot.

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Reply to Fireproof78:

I do research for both large companies and individuals, and in doing so, I’ve come across various ideas. Funny enough, even the seemingly silly ones often work out in some way! My process involves putting these ideas out there and finding people to discuss them with—to poke holes in them, which really helps refine everything.

Now, why do you need a commissioned officer?

In any legal, fighting, or non-fighting group, a commissioned officer is required to officially add members to the ranks. They’re the legal gatekeepers.

Getting one is tricky because to be accepted in military courts, you need a legal representative. It’s a bit like starting a company or even a country—you’ve got to build it right, within a legal framework, to support bringing in more members.

Side note: If I had to pick a commissioned officer, I’d probably choose this guy. 😄

Reply to Fireproof78:

Boo-khat! And Firebird!

Not fanfic—unless you don't believe in the greatness and might of Star Trek! 😂

But, being 100% grown up for 10 seconds...

Tricorders are actually becoming a reality—or at least something close. I know it’s a niche market, but that’s the world we live in now. Fanfiction is usually about writing stories for things we love. But hey, who says a little bit of it can’t cross into reality?

All I’m saying is, can’t we hold on to a little bit of hope? Just a small spark—it’s not asking for much, right?

 
Danja said:
The U.S. has a Space Force:

www.spaceforce.com

Our Mission - About the U.S. Space Force

Discover how the U.S. Space Force safeguards space security and enhances accessibility for military operations and cutting-edge innovation.
www.spaceforce.com
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Pro-Real-World Starfleet Argument
Person A:
"Why not try to build a Star Trek-like Starfleet in the real world? We have the resources, the technology is catching up, and it could be a guiding principle for humanity—a unified spacefaring organization dedicated to exploration and peace, beyond national borders."

Person B (Counterpoint):
"Well, that’s a cool idea, but why wouldn’t the U.S. Space Force already serve that purpose? It’s a structured, official entity, tasked with space operations. Why reinvent the wheel when the infrastructure is already in place?"

Counter to Using Space Force as 'Starfleet'
  1. Governments' Priorities vs. Starfleet Ideals
    Starfleet in the Star Trek universe follows principles like non-interference (the Prime Directive) and diplomacy above all else. The Space Force, however, is primarily about defense and national interests. If a government deems a certain alien civilization or even a diplomatic initiative a threat, the priorities of Starfleet ideals and military defense could quickly clash.
    Person A: "The Space Force is beholden to U.S. political agendas. If Starfleet were under that umbrella, what happens when national interests conflict with the ideals of peace and exploration? It could become militarized or used for purposes contrary to its intended mission."
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  2. Conflicting Commissions
    The point about commissions is a good one. If a person holds a military commission, they are sworn to follow the chain of command and U.S. law. If they tried to also serve in a civilian-led Starfleet initiative with a separate mission and value system, they'd face divided loyalties.
    Person A: "You’re correct that no one can serve two masters with conflicting chains of command. A military officer follows orders from the government; if those orders contradict Starfleet’s mission of peaceful exploration, which one do they choose? The military commission would win out legally—so, a military member cannot simultaneously be part of an independent Starfleet."
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  3. Legal Liability and Responsibility
    Military commissions exist to ensure accountability. Officers can be held responsible for their actions within the legal framework of the military. If they step outside that framework and act under Starfleet principles, there would be legal consequences.
    Person B: "You’re spot on—military officers need to be legally responsible to one command structure. If Starfleet ordered an officer to perform an action contrary to U.S. military rules, the officer would be in serious trouble. That’s why mixing the two isn’t feasible: you can’t have two different groups pulling in different directions when the stakes are that high."
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Potential Solutions or Workarounds
Person A (Devil's Advocate):
"What if Starfleet was purely a civilian initiative, independent from any government? You could recruit people without commissions—scientists, explorers, and astronauts willing to pursue the ideals of exploration. It could run parallel to the Space Force, rather than being a competing entity."

Person B:
"That’s an option, but without military or governmental backing, it would face serious logistical challenges—funding, technology, security, and legitimacy. Could you really get something like Starfleet off the ground without government involvement?"

Person A:
"Perhaps. But just as private spaceflight has become a reality with SpaceX and Blue Origin, maybe a civilian Starfleet could gain traction too, provided it sticks to non-military roles. It would be more akin to a peaceful space version of the United Nations or something like Doctors Without Borders."
 
now this is just me being a bit funny but after looking into

memory-beta.fandom.com

Starfleet General Orders and Regulations

Starfleet General Orders and Regulations (or Basic Orders) are a series of guidelines used to instruct members of Starfleet on the proper etiquette and policy in a situation that requires consultation for a resolution. These guidelines are especially useful in situations where flag officers...
memory-beta.fandom.com memory-beta.fandom.com

I have made the following
10 Foundational Rules for Joint Military and Civilian Operations
(A Unified Code for Sanctioned and Non-Sanctioned Entities)

1. Legality and Ethics Supersede All Orders
All personnel must refuse orders or directives that clearly violate domestic or international laws, human rights, or established ethical principles.

  • Military Clause: Military personnel have the right and obligation to refuse unlawful orders.
  • Civilians/Contractors Clause: Private sector operations must comply with governing laws and ethical codes relevant to the operational environment.
2. Mission Alignment with Public Interest
Operations must be conducted with the aim of safeguarding public safety, civil liberties, and national security, prioritizing the common good over private or political interests.

3. Transparency with Accountability
All actions taken by either military or civilian entities must be documented, with leadership held accountable for operational decisions. Classified operations must still adhere to oversight mechanisms.

4. Respect for the Chain of Command and Operational Autonomy
Personnel must respect their internal chains of command but also recognize that external partners (e.g., contractors or government agents) operate under different authority structures. Operational conflicts must be resolved at the highest shared level.

5. Neutrality Toward Internal Disputes
Military and private personnel must remain neutral in domestic disputes, political debates, or labor conflicts unless explicitly authorized by higher authority to intervene in the interest of national security or public safety.

6. Minimization of Harm
Operations should avoid unnecessary harm to civilians, non-combatants, and property, prioritizing de-escalation, even in hostile or unstable environments.

7. Mutual Support and Shared Intelligence
All parties must cooperate fully to ensure mission success, including sharing relevant intelligence, logistical resources, and technical expertise, unless expressly restricted by policy or security protocols.

8. Clear Identification and Jurisdictional Boundaries
All personnel, military or civilian, must operate with clear identification (e.g., badges, uniforms, or credentials). Jurisdictional authority must be established before entering operational zones, and all actors must respect boundary agreements.

9. Right to Object and Refuse
Personnel have the right to object to tasks that conflict with their professional ethics, legal obligations, or safety standards without fear of reprisal. Appeals must be resolved through formal channels.

10. Unified Command in Emergencies
In situations of extreme urgency (e.g., natural disasters, armed conflict, or terrorist incidents), a unified command structure will be established to coordinate efforts. All parties must defer to the designated Incident Commander, regardless of origin or rank.

:P
 
Surbris said:
"Perhaps. But just as private spaceflight has become a reality with SpaceX and Blue Origin, maybe a civilian Starfleet could gain traction too, provided it sticks to non-military roles. It would be more akin to a peaceful space version of the United Nations or something like Doctors Without Borders."
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So what organizations already do this currently?
 
also i'm wrighting 6 diferent stories and one is a fan fic for TDG so a startrek fan fic is not off the table but what do we do Isekai a star fleet lawyer sent back in time? ok thats not bad?
 
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