SPACE BATTLESHIP YAMATO - Ship Of The Week #14 3/5/2015
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I preferred the Andromeda myself.
But the Yamato wasn't bad.
But the Yamato wasn't bad.
I preferred the Andromeda myself.
But the Yamato wasn't bad.
I loved the Yamato
, albeit you are right the Andromeda was awesome too!
Aw yeah, I used to get up half an hour early before school to watch "Star Blazers" on a UHF station c. 1980. Why they couldn't put it on in the afternoon like "Battle of the Planets" I never knew. I particularly liked Conroy and the Black Tiger Squadron. Nostalgia-factor "awesome."
IIRC they were pretty brutal to Yamato in the first series, she just took pounding after pounding, like they couldn't resist animating the near destruction of ever part of the ship. But somehow she wsa repaired and kept going.
Well, yeah. Just this week we got to see how her sister is holding up.
IIRC they were pretty brutal to Yamato in the first series, she just took pounding after pounding, like they couldn't resist animating the near destruction of ever part of the ship. But somehow she wsa repaired and kept going.
Well, yeah. Just this week we got to see how her sister is holding up.
Space Battleship Yamato 2199 (the 2012 remake of the 1974 animated series) did a bunch of logical corrections to the plot and other things to remove the oddities of the 40 year old series.
And before you roll your eyes about it being a remake, this is by far the best remake of anything I have ever seen. It takes the series and keeps the spirit of it intact while revamping it to make use of the advances in animation style, scientific knowledge, and cultural advances on the last 40 years, while also either correcting or using errors or oddities in the orignal. Even using some of the older oddities as plot points to make the viable. Also they added more women to the ship's crew. No more "only one woman on the ship" problem.
In the new version, the Yamato is a new ship built to look like the old 1940s battleship in an effort of hide its construction just under the Earth's surface from the invading Gamilas forces. The ship was built near the surface, away from the underground cities because the human have no idea just what the Wave Motion Engine can do, and are afraid that if it failed, or if the Gamilas found it and blew it up, it might take out the local city with it (or worse).
The remade ship is larger than the orginal because they based he measurements on the animation model used in 1974, which was draw to the length of the Tokyo Tower (333 meters). The new version can actually fit everything inside rather than be TARDIS like and be larger on the inside like the 1974 version if scaled to the 1940s battleship.
http://yamato2199.net/index.html
http://yamato2199.net/mecha/index.html
They also made the Gamilas far more interesting a peoples than they did back in 1974 and certainly more interesting than the 2010 live action movie.
A new animated movie will be out on Blu-ray by the end of May detailing an encounter with the Comet Empire on Yamato's way home from Iscandar during the year 2199. Thus potentally setting up for a second series involving the Comet Empire at some later date. (We are hoping to get a remade Space Battleship Andromeda when that happens)
And before you roll your eyes about it being a remake, this is by far the best remake of anything I have ever seen. It takes the series and keeps the spirit of it intact while revamping it to make use of the advances in animation style, scientific knowledge, and cultural advances on the last 40 years, while also either correcting or using errors or oddities in the orignal. Even using some of the older oddities as plot points to make the viable. Also they added more women to the ship's crew. No more "only one woman on the ship" problem.
In the new version, the Yamato is a new ship built to look like the old 1940s battleship in an effort of hide its construction just under the Earth's surface from the invading Gamilas forces. The ship was built near the surface, away from the underground cities because the human have no idea just what the Wave Motion Engine can do, and are afraid that if it failed, or if the Gamilas found it and blew it up, it might take out the local city with it (or worse).
The remade ship is larger than the orginal because they based he measurements on the animation model used in 1974, which was draw to the length of the Tokyo Tower (333 meters). The new version can actually fit everything inside rather than be TARDIS like and be larger on the inside like the 1974 version if scaled to the 1940s battleship.
http://yamato2199.net/index.html
http://yamato2199.net/mecha/index.html
They also made the Gamilas far more interesting a peoples than they did back in 1974 and certainly more interesting than the 2010 live action movie.
A new animated movie will be out on Blu-ray by the end of May detailing an encounter with the Comet Empire on Yamato's way home from Iscandar during the year 2199. Thus potentally setting up for a second series involving the Comet Empire at some later date. (We are hoping to get a remade Space Battleship Andromeda when that happens)
It has that. Also very detailed ships. Much better scaling as well since it is CG based. With the addition of the new film the series has Yamato, three older Earth warships, a larger number of different Gamilas warships ranging from troop transports and destroyers all the way to super large battleships that are more than twice Yamato's length, and four types of Comet Empire warships, including their large flagship with the magnaflame gun from the old series.
Yamato herself is the most detailed, as expected. They did make it so she can take the beating she would get on a year long voyage into enemy territory were they outnumber her at times by 10,000 to 1. The 2199 version has shields for example. Limited duration shields (20 minutes I think) and they don't last too long under fire, but they last long enough. The old joke was that the Third Bridge would be blown off in a major fight, only to be rebuilt soon afterwards. The 2199 version has the Third Bridge as the most important and defended location on the ship....the shield generator and gravity systems. The producers decided that it was part of the keel and ships can't survive that kind of damage, so she doesn't take that kind anymore. The ship still gets beat up, and it usually takes a whole episode to repair the damages...sometimes two episodes, before she is ready for another fight. These repairs are usually messured in weeks rather than days. At least once it was basically a month to fix the damages and they managed to get a shipyard to do it in.
Yamato's weapons rip giant holes in the Gamilas and Comet Empire's smaller ships. Both the shock cannons (energy weapon that are said to be positron based) as well as shorter ranged but advanced fusion shells used for brute force attacked to punch through thick armor or if they have power problems. Missiles provide area effect weaponry. Lots of point defense guns to counter fighters and missiles. And then there is the Wave Motion Gun. A weapon of mass destruction that can potentially crack open a planet.
Yamato's weapons aren't foolproof. The Gamilas' largest battleships have enough reflective armor on the bow to deflect Yamato's shock cannons easily. And the Wave Motion Gun take a lot of power to fire. Yamato's shields can only deflect the power powerful weapons once completely, and focused fire eventually punches through the shields. To make up for this, the 2199 version has 36 Cosmo Falcons (an updated version of the old Black Tigers...name changed because "Black Tiger" seems to be the name of some food company today) and 2 Cosmo Zeros, which are superior fighters armed with multiple external hardpoints, guns, and a large cannon in the nose that can pierce heavy armor. The Cosmo Falcons have guns and smaller cannons as well as an internal weapons bay for missiles. It was designed as a planetary defense fighter and was adapted for use on Yamato as a carrier spacecraft. The Cosmo Zeros are purpose built as Earth's first carrier based fighter. But there were only a few finished in time, so the Falcons where converted to fill in.
Yamato herself is the most detailed, as expected. They did make it so she can take the beating she would get on a year long voyage into enemy territory were they outnumber her at times by 10,000 to 1. The 2199 version has shields for example. Limited duration shields (20 minutes I think) and they don't last too long under fire, but they last long enough. The old joke was that the Third Bridge would be blown off in a major fight, only to be rebuilt soon afterwards. The 2199 version has the Third Bridge as the most important and defended location on the ship....the shield generator and gravity systems. The producers decided that it was part of the keel and ships can't survive that kind of damage, so she doesn't take that kind anymore. The ship still gets beat up, and it usually takes a whole episode to repair the damages...sometimes two episodes, before she is ready for another fight. These repairs are usually messured in weeks rather than days. At least once it was basically a month to fix the damages and they managed to get a shipyard to do it in.
Yamato's weapons rip giant holes in the Gamilas and Comet Empire's smaller ships. Both the shock cannons (energy weapon that are said to be positron based) as well as shorter ranged but advanced fusion shells used for brute force attacked to punch through thick armor or if they have power problems. Missiles provide area effect weaponry. Lots of point defense guns to counter fighters and missiles. And then there is the Wave Motion Gun. A weapon of mass destruction that can potentially crack open a planet.
Yamato's weapons aren't foolproof. The Gamilas' largest battleships have enough reflective armor on the bow to deflect Yamato's shock cannons easily. And the Wave Motion Gun take a lot of power to fire. Yamato's shields can only deflect the power powerful weapons once completely, and focused fire eventually punches through the shields. To make up for this, the 2199 version has 36 Cosmo Falcons (an updated version of the old Black Tigers...name changed because "Black Tiger" seems to be the name of some food company today) and 2 Cosmo Zeros, which are superior fighters armed with multiple external hardpoints, guns, and a large cannon in the nose that can pierce heavy armor. The Cosmo Falcons have guns and smaller cannons as well as an internal weapons bay for missiles. It was designed as a planetary defense fighter and was adapted for use on Yamato as a carrier spacecraft. The Cosmo Zeros are purpose built as Earth's first carrier based fighter. But there were only a few finished in time, so the Falcons where converted to fill in.
Goofy doesn't begin to describe my negative feelings for this one. I am just so not in the target audience for this! Rubbish! 
Many of you know of my love for all things Yamato. Even had a kind of a soft spot for Yamato 2520 - the Galactica: 1980 of the Yamato world. The Syd Mead art direction was quite interesting, IMO, and carried over after a fashion into the more recent Yamato: Rebirth. A shame "The Nish" couldn't live to see its current incarnation. I'm sure he would have been thrilled at the outcome.
In one word, quite simply, awesome!
In one word, quite simply, awesome!
