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Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Guitarists

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The list

As usual, Rolling Stone does an okayish job. Jimi Hendrix is a good number 1 choice, but some others are pretty questionable, IMO. I mean, Jack White at 17? Really? While Angus Young and David Gilmour are somewhere near the bottom of the list? And there's a noticable lack of guys like Slash, Alex Lifeson, and Steve Vai.

Anyone else have any thoughts?
 
Well the list really should be called the 100 Greatest Blues-Rock Guitarists of All Time. Jazz and Classical music have 1 entry and metal is given short shrift. The list is aptly named by saying "guitarists" instead of guitar players". I think they were going more for players that wrote and played in the context of a band rather than really amazing players. Explains why guys like Johnny Ramone and Ron Asheton are so high. They were mediocre guitar players, but had a lot of good riffs. AVH at #70 is just absurd. Ironically, out of the big 3 Jeff Beck was a better guitar player than either Clapton or Page, and Clapton and Page will tell you so, but he got the lowest spot. James Burton and Warren Haynes in the top 25? James Burton, but no Chet Atkins? OK you can put Keith at #10, but why isn't Ronnie on the list at all? Big omissions besdies the previous mentions: Allan Holdsworth, Adrian Belew, Steve Morse, Steve Hackett, Andy Summers, Alvin Lee, Robin Trower. That's just off the top of my head.
 
When was this article written? It lists Johnny Ramone as living in retirement even though he's been dead since 2004.
 
Seems to be a list of the most influential rock/blues musicians and songwriters who happened to have guitar as their main instrument. I mean come on please, Kurt Cobain the 12th greatest guitarist ever? He was influential and a great songwriter who made the absolute most of his limited ability as a player, but the guy could hardly even play the thing in a technical sense.

There's only one player in their top ten who would make my list of personal favourites and that is Ry Cooder. In fact my list would go as follows (a list of my favourites, NOT a list of the most influential or the best technical players in any way):

1. Brian May
2. Dean Deleo
3. Ry Cooder
4. Dimebag Darrell
5. Scott Ian
6. Adrian Smith
7. Richie Sambora
8. Kim Thayil
9. Pete Friesen
10. Mike McCready

Wow, that was actually pretty hard, i left out a hell of a lot of players that I adore then.
 
The list

As usual, Rolling Stone does an okayish job. Jimi Hendrix is a good number 1 choice, but some others are pretty questionable, IMO. I mean, Jack White at 17? Really? While Angus Young and David Gilmour are somewhere near the bottom of the list? And there's a noticable lack of guys like Slash, Alex Lifeson, and Steve Vai.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? :wtf:

How old are the "journos" at Rolling Stone? 16?
 
Polls like this are usually to be taken with a huge pinch of salt and this one is no exception. Doubtless it's been selected by people who've never held a guitar in their lives.

The One Trick Pony Clapton at 4? Better than Page or Beck? Bollocks. Kurt Cobain better than Beck? Risible. Johnny Ramone or Jack White better than Mark Knopfler? Piffle.

The final loss of all credibility was The Edge in the 20s. He doesn't even belong in the top 100. A one-dimensional, repetitive player, wholly reliant on reverb and other effects pedals.

That's even before you find out that Lou Reed is apparently a better player than Richie Blackmore. And Eddie Van Halen is only at 70. Dave Gilmour at 82. I suppose we should be grateful that Angus Young, Randy Rhoads and Tony Iommi made it - that's more than Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Gary Moore or Rory Gallagher did.

Don't know why I bothered reading it. I need to go and lie in a darkened room now.
 
I have had many a discussion over this list in the five years since it came out. I agree that there is a bias toward innovators and players who contributed to a band's unique sound over sheer technical skill. But that's OK with me. Everybody has different tastes and my opinion is no more valid than the next guy's, but I have heard plenty of guys who can play really fast. A solo for the sake of playing a show-off solo just bores me. I would much rather hear a short solo that really says something in the context of the song, or just tasty little embellishments here and there. And catchy riffs count for a lot, they are like writing a hook lyric, it's hard to do. Chuck Berry and Steve Cropper are my idea of perfect guitarists.

A word about Johnny Ramone: He may have not been a virtuosic guitarist, but he invented what he did, made it work, never sounded bad, and still nobody sounds like him. I remember reading an interview with Billy Zoom, a legendary "punk" guitarist who can play like Chet Atkins or Django Reinhardt with ease and many other instruments, and he said he was absolutely blown away when he heard the first Ramones record. He didn't know whether that was all Johnny did or whether he was one of the best guitarists in the world. And it may be easy to learn a Ramones song, but playing like Johnny did, all downstrokes at that tempo, song after song, is really hard.

The list definitely shows something about the time it was written and the magazine's demographic. Jack White probably wouldn't be so high today, for one thing. "Alternative" music from the 1990s is well represented, but the '80s is almost ignored. Andy Summers, Peter Buck, James Honeyman-Scott, Dave Alvin, Johnny Marr, the above-mentioned Zoom, all were very influential in their day. Including D. Boon and Greg Ginn was nice, though.

James Burton has worked on more "rock and roll" stuff than Chet Atkins, but I agree Chester should be on the list. Jerry Reed too, for that matter. And Eddie Van Halen in the lower thid? Come on.

And it bugs me that they listed both of Radiohead's, Sonic Youth's and MC5's guitar players together, but didn't include Richard Lloyd to go along with Tom Verlaine. And Carlos Santana higher than Peter Green? Listen to early Fleetwood Mac records and try to figure that one out.

And I'll give a shout-out here for Johnny "Guitar" Watson, Jimmy Nolen and Nils Lofgren.

Bo Diddley, Robert Quine and Ron Asheton have also died since the list was made, Asheton within the last couple of months.

Anyway, those lists are always good for getting a discussion going, if not an argument!

--Justin
 
Huh, I didn't even realize this article was so old. I saw it linked on another website, and just assumed it was recent, I guess. :lol:

Still makes for an interesting discussion, though.
 
Where the f*ck is Andy Summers? He created the 80s New Wave punk-meets-reggae shimmery sound that was copied by countless other bands, and he also became a virtuoso jazz guitarist in his post-Police career. He won the top spot on the Guitar Player Magazine list of top guitarists five years in a row and is an inductee in the Guitar Player Hall of Fame (as well as the Rock and Rol Hall of Fame). An absolutely criminal omission.
 
This fucking piece of shit has already been at the ass-end of a million jokes the guitar world over. Let it die already.

I was still giging pretty regularly when it came out. On several occasions if a bunch of us from different bands were together at a club/bar would throw back some beers, get a copy of the issue, take it out back, and piss on it. It was great stress relief (among other things).
 
I was about to comment that Rolling Groan is hardly more qualified than anyone here, to create such a list. But I like Clegg's response MUCH better. :lol:

J.T.B., that was a very nicely stated, even-handed reply. You strike me as someone who has either played quite a bit or studied toa certain extent.
 
Considering it's Rolling Stone, there is no surprise that Lifeson ain't there.

Lifeson could record The Complete Works of Every Guitar Piece Written Ever and still not get recognized by Rolling Stone.

Agreed. I'm not really a Rush fan, but even I will acknowledge that Lifeson is A) an excellent guitar player and B) has been quite influential over the years.
 
Iknow next to nothing about how to play, but I listen alot. What has always struck me about Lifeson's play is that he makes it seem so effortless.
 
Yes that is true about Lifeson. He makes the most of very few notes, and he shines without overshining the rest of the band. I think it takes great talent to be able to change styles like that over the years, as the band has done. He never let ego supercede songwriting.


Of course RS wouldn't know talent if they read it in a dictionary.

Also John Pettruci, a player who is one of the few to be asked to play on the G3 tour, cited Lifeson as his favorite and most influential player
 
My personal faves include

Jimmy Page
Jeff Beck
Alex Lifeson
David Gilmour
Steve Vai
John Petrucci
Joe Satriani
Eric Clapton
Steven Wilson
Tony Iommi
Randy Rhoads
Andy Summers

Some of those guys I mentioned are nowhere near the list. Oh well. I've never taken Rolling Stone that seriously.
 
J.T.B., that was a very nicely stated, even-handed reply. You strike me as someone who has either played quite a bit or studied toa certain extent.

Thanks. I've played enough to know I'll never be on anyone's list of great guitarists!

--Justin
 
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