NFL Football - 2008-09 Season Discussion

[tomalak301]

Well, training camps are opening this week, The Giants and A's suck, so that only means one thing. The NFL season is right around the corner and I can't wait. I figure since this is the sports forum, we can seperate College and Pro, so if anyone wants to start the college thread, go right ahead. The NFL, though, is back and it's the time of year where your team might suck, but you have a chance because there is something about the league that psyches you up.

How's your team shaping up going into training camp? Will Brett Farve actually play for the Packers or will he actually go to a rival or stay retired. Will the Patriots actually lose a regular season game? So many questions and we've got 7 months to discuss it all.

For me, I'm looking forward to seeing how the Niners are doing. I don't expect playoffs, but I expect significant improvement and steps forward this year. They have a strong defense with Willis, Clements, and Manny Lawson coming back after that really bad injury. I'm looking forward to the QB competition between Smith and Hill and how Martz will run the offense, which was a really big problem last year. I really hope Frank Gore (Not a first round draft pick in fantasy IMO) improves from last year and the schedule is actually favorable. I'm not saying playoffs or bust, but I don't think it's too much to say this team could easily go 8-8 or 9-7.

Football is back, and I can't wait.

 

[JM1776]

Well, they're inferior to both the Cardinals (despite those two infuriating last-play wins in 2007 that cost the Redbirds a playoff spot) and Seahawks, so I think 8-8 is quite optimistic. You should probably hope for 6-10.

 

[tomalak301]

Well, they're inferior to both the Cardinals (despite those two infuriating last-play wins in 2007 that cost the Redbirds a playoff spot) and Seahawks, so I think 8-8 is quite optimistic. You should probably hope for 6-10.

If I knew you personally, that wouldn't be a bad bet.

 

[Spider]

I'm looking forward to the Texans training camp and pre-season. I'm interested in how Gibbs is going to shape up our pathetic offensive line, and allow two broken down running backs to gain yards behind it.

The Texans defense looks to be better, and I'm looking forward to watching Mario Williams do his thing this year.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

There are two training camps I'm paying attention to right now. One, of course, is the Eagles (which already has controversy as Westbrook and Lito may or may not hold on for new contracts). The other is the Ravens, since I have to keep an eye on Joe Flacco. I honestly think he has potential to be great in the league, but you can never tell. The pressure is certainly on him (if he wasn't drafted so high, the only expectation would be for him to do better than Rich Gannon, but he's obviously expected to do much more).

 

[Turbo]

All of the teams mentioned so far are inferior to my Jaguars.

Seriously, though, if we can just fix the problems with our pass rushing, secondary, and wide recievers, we'll be in the AFC Championship Game this year. I'm not saying we'll win it, but we'll be there.

What do y'all think of the Giants trading Jeremy Shockey to the Saints? I think it was a good move for all concerned; Shockey fills an immediate need in New Orleans, and the Giants get some future building. Alas, I think that New Orleans is also mortgaging away their future with this, so they'd sure as hell better perform this year.

And please, someone, make Brett Farve go away. I used to have so much respect for him. I'm rapidly losing it.

 

[mimic]

I don't like the Eagles management. Just pay Westbrook - he's BEEN the team for the past several years - they owe him. He should sit out.

 

[highlander]

I'm really getting jacked up for this season. Every one is big on Dallas in the NFC. I hate them with an all consuming passion, so it would be cool to watch them fall flat. I think my Seahawks have a good shot this year, the addition of Jones in the backfield will really help. But as Chris Berman says..."Come on Seattle"

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I don't like the Eagles management. Just pay Westbrook - he's BEEN the team for the past several years - they owe him. He should sit out.

From what I understand, they are negotiating a contract resettlement (although I do think the holdup is price, which is unfortunate). Thankfully they aren't just saying that they won't renegotiate because he has three years left on his contract. I think it's safe to say that they will give him a new contract.

 

[1001001]

REPENT! RAMMAGEDDON IS AT HAND!!!

 

[Pegaritaville]

What do y'all think of the Giants trading Jeremy Shockey to the Saints? I think it was a good move for all concerned; Shockey fills an immediate need in New Orleans, and the Giants get some future building. Alas, I think that New Orleans is also mortgaging away their future with this, so they'd sure as hell better perform this year.

Good move by the Giants, but I think the Saints gave away too much. The rookie (can't recall the name right now) that filled in last year when Shockey got hurt showed a lot of promise. And as you said, the Saints mortgaged their future. And for a head case that maybe has 1-2 good years left.

As for my team (the Packers), I'm not expecting much. As long as Green Bay can split their series with the Vikings, I'll be thrilled. Even better if Aaron Rogers goes out in the 2nd quarter of game 2: That's what I ended up picking on our town's "How Long Will Aaron Last" board.

 

[tomalak301]

What do y'all think of the Giants trading Jeremy Shockey to the Saints? I think it was a good move for all concerned; Shockey fills an immediate need in New Orleans, and the Giants get some future building. Alas, I think that New Orleans is also mortgaging away their future with this, so they'd sure as hell better perform this year.

Good move by the Giants, but I think the Saints gave away too much. The rookie (can't recall the name right now) that filled in last year when Shockey got hurt showed a lot of promise. And as you said, the Saints mortgaged their future. And for a head case that maybe has 1-2 good years left.

As for my team (the Packers), I'm not expecting much. As long as Green Bay can split their series with the Vikings, I'll be thrilled. Even better if Aaron Rogers goes out in the 2nd quarter of game 2: That's what I ended up picking on our town's "How Long Will Aaron Last" board.

I kind of feel sorry for the guy because he got drafted so late in the draft and he's getting crapped on everywhere he looks. I know you guys had a legendary QB, but at least give Rogers a chance. It could be worse. It could be Alex Smith still having to prove himself on a consistant basis. Or even worse than that. Anyone remember Ryan Leaf?

 

[Pegaritaville]

I kind of feel sorry for the guy because he got drafted so late in the draft and he's getting crapped on everywhere he looks. I know you guys had a legendary QB, but at least give Rogers a chance. It could be worse. It could be Alex Smith still having to prove himself on a consistant basis. Or even worse than that. Anyone remember Ryan Leaf?

I kind of feel sorry for Aaron Rodgers, too, especially with all of the Favre crap putting extra media pressure on him. But in the few (I think 7) games he has played in, he's gotten injured an awful lot. He deserves his chance, but I'm not expecting a lot. He could turn out to be the next Marino, but he could also turn out to be the next Ryan Leaf.

 

[Spider]

All of the teams mentioned so far are inferior to my Jaguars.

We shall see about that! Texans fan here!

But, in all seriousness, I see you guys and the Colts fighting it out for 1st and 2nd place in our division, and the Titans and Texans trying to keep out of 4th place. Both the Jaguars and Texans improved in the off season, Colts remain powerfull, I don't think a whole lot of the Titans off season. But you never can tell. There is a lot of football to be played between now and January.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

What do y'all think of the Giants trading Jeremy Shockey to the Saints? I think it was a good move for all concerned; Shockey fills an immediate need in New Orleans, and the Giants get some future building. Alas, I think that New Orleans is also mortgaging away their future with this, so they'd sure as hell better perform this year.

Good move by the Giants, but I think the Saints gave away too much. The rookie (can't recall the name right now) that filled in last year when Shockey got hurt showed a lot of promise. And as you said, the Saints mortgaged their future. And for a head case that maybe has 1-2 good years left.

Yeah, I kinda agree. Especially considering his attitude. I know he's a talented player and all, but you have to be careful what kind of personality you introduce to the locker room.

 

[Turbo]

All of the teams mentioned so far are inferior to my Jaguars.

We shall see about that! Texans fan here!

But, in all seriousness, I see you guys and the Colts fighting it out for 1st and 2nd place in our division, and the Titans and Texans trying to keep out of 4th place. Both the Jaguars and Texans improved in the off season, Colts remain powerfull, I don't think a whole lot of the Titans off season. But you never can tell. There is a lot of football to be played between now and January.

I think the Texans will be in a solid third. I could see Jacksonville splitting both the Indy and Houston series and sweeping the Titans, while Indy sweeps both of them, leaving Indy the winners and Jax with a wild card spot. But the Titans will be crap so long as they cling to Vince Young - he's the most overrated starting QB in the NFL.

 

[pookha]

REPENT! RAMMAGEDDON IS AT HAND!!!

hmm maybe i should post my training camp notes for when the rammies come to town

 

[pookha]

All of the teams mentioned so far are inferior to my Jaguars.

We shall see about that! Texans fan here!

But, in all seriousness, I see you guys and the Colts fighting it out for 1st and 2nd place in our division, and the Titans and Texans trying to keep out of 4th place. Both the Jaguars and Texans improved in the off season, Colts remain powerfull, I don't think a whole lot of the Titans off season. But you never can tell. There is a lot of football to be played between now and January.

I think the Texans will be in a solid third. I could see Jacksonville splitting both the Indy and Houston series and sweeping the Titans, while Indy sweeps both of them, leaving Indy the winners and Jax with a wild card spot. But the Titans will be crap so long as they cling to Vince Young - he's the most overrated starting QB in the NFL.

really i am not saying a lot till i go to camp.

but it is going to be interesting to see if dinger can get through to vince.
lets just say dinger has a lot more well dynamic personality then chow.



at times last year vince was his own worst enemy besides being hurt most of the season.
he really let himself get down and distracted by the family turmoil swirling around him.

 

[Spider]

I was wondering when pookha was going to show up in this thread.

 

[1001001]

REPENT! RAMMAGEDDON IS AT HAND!!!

hmm maybe i should post my training camp notes for when the rammies come to town

I....don't know what that means, but...sure!