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New Theory About Mars' Mystery Moon Phobos - Alien Influenced?

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New Theory About Mars' Mystery Moon Phobos -Created By a Massive Impact (Or Something Else?)


http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblo...ed-by-a-massive-impact-or-something-else.html

The origin of Mars' moon, Phobos (fear in ancient Greek), is a mystery, but three theories are considered plausible. The first is that the moon is a captured asteroid; the second is that it formed in-situ as Mars formed below it, and the third is that Phobos formed later than Mars, from debris flung into martian orbit when a massive meteorite struck the Red Planet.

- A fourth, far more radical and controversial (although thoroughly intriguing) theory is one that has been kicking around for decades: that Phobos is a artificial object in Mars orbit -in short, a 1.5-mile-long, extremely ancient spacecraft.

- In a recent development, scientists say they have uncovered firm evidence that Mars's largest moon, the mysterious Phobos, is made from rocks blasted off the Martian surface in a catastrophic event, solving a long-standing puzzle.

- New data from the European Space Agency's Mars Express spacecraft appears to make the asteroid capture scenario look less likely. Recent observations as thermal infrared wavelengths using the Planetary Fourier Spectrometer (PFS) instrument on Mars Express show a poor match between the rocks on Phobos and any class of chondritic meteorite known from Earth, which seems to support the "re-accretion" models for the formation of Phobos, in which rocks from the surface of the Red Planet are blasted into Martian orbit to later clump and form Phobos.

- "We detected for the first time a type of mineral called phyllosilicates on the surface of Phobos, particularly in the areas northeast of Stickney, its largest impact crater," said co-author Dr Marco Giuranna, from the Italian National Institute for Astrophysics in Rome.These phyllosilicate rocks are thought to form in the presence of water, and have been found previously on Mars.

- "This is very intriguing as it implies the interaction of silicate materials with liquid water on the parent body prior to incorporation into Phobos," said Dr Giuranna. "Alternatively, phyllosilicates may have formed in situ, but this would mean that Phobos required sufficient internal heating to enable liquid water to remain stable."

- Other observations from Phobos appear to match the types of minerals identified on the surface of Mars. Thus, the make-up of Phobos appears more closely related to Mars than to asteroids from the main belt, say the researchers. In addition, said Pascal Rosenblatt of the Royal Observatory of Belgium, "the asteroid capture scenarios also have difficulties in explaining the current near-circular and near-equatorial orbit of both Martian moons (Phobos and Deimos)".

- In describing the internal geometric structure of this "moon" as revealed by MARSIS, European Space Agency (ESA) sources emphasized that "several of these interior Phobos compartments also appear to still be holding some kind of atmosphere ...." which has given birth to wild speculation that Phobos could prove to be an artificial satellite of some sort. The source repeated this several times ... raising all kinds of fascinating questions regarding "how" the radar could, in fact, determine this -- that some of the vast "rooms" inside Phobos ("from a quarter to half-a-mile in diameter ...") were "maintaining an internal pressure."
 
If one were to backtrack the solar system's existence going back billions of years it's not impossible that there could have been a local space faring alien race who could have put that moon there and used it as a space station.

A unique idea for a space station for sure, hollowing out a natural satellite even if they had to move it there.
 
It’s certainly possible that Phobos could be an artificial satellite placed in orbit around Mars by extraterrestrial beings.

It’s also possible, to quote the philosopher Wayne Campbell, that monkeys might fly out of my butt.
 
Uh, who thinks that Phobos formed at the same time as Mars? Isn't it in a rapidly decaying orbit? It could not be that old. It would have crashed into the surface of Mars millions/billions of years ago.
 
I've heard people say Phobos is artifical for years. Hardly a "new theory".

Indeed. It's been around since the 1950s. An article from Wiki (link):

In the late 1950s and 1960s, the unusual orbital characteristics of Phobos led to speculations that it might be hollow.
Around 1958, Russian astrophysicist Iosif Samuilovich Shklovsky, studying the secular acceleration of Phobos' orbital motion, suggested a "thin sheet metal" structure for Phobos, a suggestion which led to speculations that Phobos was of artificial origin.[56] Shklovsky based his analysis on estimates of the upper Martian atmosphere's density, and deduced that for the weak braking effect to be able to account for the secular acceleration, Phobos had to be very light — one calculation yielded a hollow iron sphere 16 kilometres (9.9 mi) across but less than 6 cm thick.[56][57] In a February 1960 letter to the journal Astronautics,[58] Fred Singer, then science advisor to U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, said of Shklovsky's theory:
If the satellite is indeed spiraling inward as deduced from astronomical observation, then there is little alternative to the hypothesis that it is hollow and therefore martian made. The big 'if' lies in the astronomical observations; they may well be in error. Since they are based on several independent sets of measurements taken decades apart by different observers with different instruments, systematic errors may have influenced them.[58]
Subsequently, the systemic data errors that Singer predicted were found to exist, and the claim was called into doubt,[59] and accurate measurements of the orbit available by 1969 showed that the discrepancy did not exist.[60] Singer's critique was justified when earlier studies were discovered to have used an overestimated value of 5 cm/yr for the rate of altitude loss, which was later revised to 1.8 cm/yr.[61] The secular acceleration is now attributed to tidal effects,[59] which had not been considered in the earlier studies. The density of Phobos has now been directly measured by spacecraft to be 1.887 g/cm³.[4] Current observations are consistent with Phobos being a rubble pile.[4] In addition, images obtained by the Viking probes in the 1970s clearly showed a natural object, not an artificial one.
However, mapping by the Mars Express probe and subsequent volume calculations do suggest the presence of voids within the moon and indicate that it is not a solid chunk of rock but a porous body instead.[62] The porosity of Phobos was calculated to be 30% ± 5%, or a quarter to a third of the moon being hollow. This void space is mostly on small scales (millimeters to ~1-m), between individual grains and boulders.[6]
In other words, like all myths, a kernel of unverified observation was taken to ridiculous limits without the desire for further study to check said wild claims. The end result? New data comes out a short time later showing the initial observation to be in error, myth continues on anyway.
 
Maybe in the hollow sections there'd be some alien technology still intact with a couple of alien skeletons perhaps.
 
There are also those who believe that the rings of Saturn are constructed... go fig. Thankfully, I would not be among them.
 
Maybe in the hollow sections there'd be some alien technology still intact with a couple of alien skeletons perhaps.

Why? Most of the hollow sections measure, at maximum, about one meter in diameter. It wouldn't make a lick of sense to have any kind of station in a highly porous lump of rock with a rapidly degrading orbit.
 
Degrading now, but maybe they were tiny aliens.

Degrading for a long, long time. Whether they were or were not tiny aliens, there is still no evidence that any such extra-terrestrial creatures exist. This is all in conjunction with and based on a now defunct hypothesis proven to be fraught with errors.
 
. . . In other words, like all myths, a kernel of unverified observation was taken to ridiculous limits without the desire for further study to check said wild claims. The end result? New data comes out a short time later showing the initial observation to be in error, myth continues on anyway.
Like the mythical Martian canals, for example. Ray Bradbury’s The Martian Chronicles, a collection of short stories published between 1948 and 1958, used the already well-worn concept of a planetwide network of waterways built by Martians to bring life-giving water from the polar icecaps to their cities and farms.

And in Robinson Crusoe on Mars (1964), the Martian canals were said to exist, although they were described as a natural geographic feature.
 
. . . In other words, like all myths, a kernel of unverified observation was taken to ridiculous limits without the desire for further study to check said wild claims. The end result? New data comes out a short time later showing the initial observation to be in error, myth continues on anyway.
Like the mythical Martian canals, for example. Ray Bradbury’s The Martian Chronicles, a collection of short stories published between 1948 and 1958, used the already well-worn concept of a planetwide network of waterways built by Martians to bring life-giving water from the polar icecaps to their cities and farms.

And in Robinson Crusoe on Mars (1964), the Martian canals were said to exist, although they were described as a natural phenomenon.

Exactly.
 
There are also those who believe that the rings of Saturn are constructed... go fig. Thankfully, I would not be among them.

There are also those who believe that an intelligence constructed the entire universe. But that is going off topic.

As to Phobos, what if it was the people of Mars who made a space station to escape their dying planet. Perhaps deep in the interior of Phobos their descendants still live. Maybe from time to time they are able to look down on the planet with a telescope and marvel at truly ancient remnants of their ancestor's canals, remnants that are so old, one could mistake them for natural features.
 
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