New Netflix Series: "Terminator Zero"

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From description:
"From Skydance, Production I.G, Masashi Kudō and Mattson Tomlin comes one of the most anticipated anime series of the year, TERMINATOR ZERO.
Starring Timothy Olyphant, Rosario Dawson, Sonoya Mizuno, André Holland & Ann Dowd - TERMINATOR ZERO premieres on August 29th (Judgement Day) only on Netflix."

In Japan, Malcolm Lee has been developing another AI system that is intended to compete with Skynet. As Judgment Day approaches in 1997, Lee finds himself and his three children pursued by an unknown robot assassin, and a mysterious soldier from the year 2022 has been sent to protect him.

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[JoeZhang]

a mysterious soldier from the year 2022

Who will be turn out to be an alternative to the Terminator designed by the other AI who survived and is competing with Skynet for the future?

 

[Christopher]

Weird to see a 2024 Terminator production sticking with the original timeline where the apocalypse was in 1997 and they had time travel by 2022. Most (all?) of the other sequels from T3 onward have bumped the date forward, attributing it to timeline changes.

 

[Tosk]

I feel like I'm in a good headspace for this. I hope for the best but have no real expectations.
If it can deliver without becoming convoluted bullshit I'll be happy.

...Although I'm sure there will be something in it for me to complain about.

 

[DonIago]

I'm interested, but I'll wait for other people to see it first. I haven't seen a Terminator film since T3, and I stopped watching TSCC somewhat involuntarily when it seemed to jump around in the schedule and I lost track of it, but also IIRC the plot seemed to be increasingly derailing.

 

[Saul]

I love the animation style. Get early 90s vibes from it. Seems like a perfect match with the world of the terminator.

I stopped watching TSCC somewhat involuntarily when it seemed to jump around in the schedule and I lost track of it, but also IIRC the plot seemed to be increasingly derailing.

TSCC was a great series that ended too soon. I loved where it seemed to be going. I'd recommend giving it another chance, it ends on a cliffhanger though.

 

[DonIago]

I don't really want to voluntarily pick up/finish off a series that's just going to frustrate me by ending on a cliffhanger. I'm still waiting to find out who got shot in what turned out to be the finale episode of "Models, Inc."! And hey, that's actually somewhat Trek-related as Robert Beltran was a regular or recurring actor in that series.

 

[JD]

This looks like it could be pretty cool.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

The animation style and the cast are excellent. Not convinced there's an interesting story there but I'll give it a shot.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The animation style and the cast are excellent. Not convinced there's an interesting story there but I'll give it a shot.

In 2022 Skynet is winning the war.

They have the luxury of inventing/playing with time travel.

Terminator Zero may mean the first timeline.

No John Connor.

Although, it would be kinda awesome if when we see skynet putting the time displacement core together in a flashback, that all the crates the machine had been stored in, are stamped with Swastikas.

 

[Tosk]

I guess my first gripe will be that I don't like Skydance's approach to the Terminator logo. This one looks mostly like they smooshed the Genisys and Dark Fate ones together. That conjoined N and A can eff off.

They have the luxury of inventing/playing with time travel.

I prefer back when it was a last ditch Hail Mary. Especially with the overwhelming majority of Terminator stories being a variation on "Terminator and Protector get sent back".

 

[Guy Gardener]

I guess my first gripe will be that I don't like Skydance's approach to the Terminator logo. This one looks mostly like they smooshed the Genisys and Dark Fate ones together. That conjoined N and A can eff off.


I prefer back when it was a last ditch Hail Mary. Especially with the overwhelming majority of Terminator stories being a variation on "Terminator and Protector get sent back".

Time Machines destroy worlds.

Skynet killed itself by playing with shit it did not understand completely.

Last night, I was watching the 7 Days where Parker splits into a good and evil half, while an evil General coup's America. Evil Parker hands the evil general the keys to Time travel, but the evil generals first instinct was "Blow it up" because everything was sweet, and there was no reason meddle with perfect.

 

[Relayer1]

Have to say I'm disappointed it's animated, but I think it's probably outlived it's lifespan in live action.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Why disappointed? The animation is one of the main selling points for me. Mind you, I still need to be convinced that it has a good story to tell, but I'm already more interested than I would be if it was just another live-action CGI romp.

And I say that as one of the few people who mostly loved Dark Fate.

(Shit...has it already been five years since that film?!)

 

[Relayer1]

Why disappointed? The animation is one of the main selling points for me.

Simply not a fan of animation to be honest.

 

[Christopher]

Nothing wrong with a franchise spreading out. There have been Terminator stories on film, live-action television, comics, prose novels, and computer games. No surprise it's finally made it to anime, as have so many other American media franchises. It seems a pretty natural fit for anime, really.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Skynet killed itself by playing with shit it did not understand completely.

I've always been of the mind that Skynet will eventually erase itself from the timeline, because of all the time travel they're so fond of.

Meaning: They will eventually get the inventor of time travel killed - and since Skynet's entire existence DEPENDS on time travel, they will be wiped from the timeline.

Mark my words, Future Coda will be a thing.

 

[JD]

I'm a little surprised we haven't gotten a storyline like that yet in the franchise. With it turning out that Skynet was based off of the first T-800's arm, it would seem to me that stopping the creation of time travel would be the perfect way to stop Skynet from ever existing.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I've always been of the mind that Skynet will eventually erase itself from the timeline, because of all the time travel they're so fond of.

Meaning: They will eventually get the inventor of time travel killed - and since Skynet's entire existence DEPENDS on time travel, they will be wiped from the timeline.

Mark my words, Future Coda will be a thing.

If the Libyans can't kill Doc Brown, I can't see what chance a Terminator has.

 

[Christopher]

I'm a little surprised we haven't gotten a storyline like that yet in the franchise. With it turning out that Skynet was based off of the first T-800's arm, it would seem to me that stopping the creation of time travel would be the perfect way to stop Skynet from ever existing.

Except a lot of the sequels (particularly The Sarah Connor Chronicles) take the position that Skynet is inevitable, that if you prevent one origin, it will come about through another means. Which is plausible, because it's common in science and technology for the same breakthrough to be made independently by two or more groups around the same time, when the necessary foundations have been laid for that next step to be taken. And there's the larger social context too; remove one origin for Skynet, and you'd still have the military-industrial complex that had a desire for something like Skynet, so that they'd just turn to the next group of inventors who came up with something along the same lines.

By the same token, if you stop one group from inventing time travel, someone else will do it before long. Time travel wouldn't be invented until the theoretical and technological foundations allowing its invention were in place, and at that point it would be inevitable.