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New Marvel Ghost Rider and Helstrom series coming to Hulu

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They have announced that two brand new live action Marvel series will be coming to Hulu, a Ghost Rider series focused on a new version of Robbie Reyes and a Helstrom series focused on Daimon and Ana (known in the comics as Satana) Helstrom.
The Ghost Rider series will see Agents of S.H.E.I.L.D.'s Gabriel Luna once again playing the title character, but this will be a new version of the character, not the one we saw in AoS.
Here's the description of the series in IGN article:
Per Hulu: "Marvel’s Ghost Rider, also known as Robbie Reyes, is a quintessential antihero, consumed by hellfire and supernaturally bound to a demon. Reyes lives on the Texas/Mexico border and when he unleashes the Rider, Robbie brings vengeance for the innocents he encounters, but struggles to control the power he wields." Marvel’s Ghost Rider is executive produced by Ingrid Escajeda, who is also showrunner on the series.
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Here's the descrption from Helstrom on IGN:
"Daimon and Ana Helstrom are the son and daughter of a mysterious and powerful serial killer. The siblings have a complicated dynamic as they track down the terrorizing worst of humanity -- each with their attitude and skills."
In the comics the siblings are the children of Satan, so I'm wondering if we'll eventually get a big reveal that the "mysterious and powerful serial killer" is actually Satan.
Jeph Loeb and Paul Zbyszewski will be executive producers on both series, and Zbyszewski will be showrunner for Helstrom, with Ingrid Escajeda as showrunner for Ghost Rider. It sounds like both series will be focusing quite of bit on the horror elements of the characters.
I've been pretty happy with pretty much all of the Marvel series I've seen, so I'm looking forward to these.
 
There's been some clarification from Hulu via Entertainment Weekly about whether this is the same Robbie Reyes we saw in Agents of SHIELD.

EW has confirmed Luna will also star in Ghost Rider, which will also be executive produced by S.H.I.E.L.D. EPs Paul Zbyszewski and Jeph Loeb. According to Hulu, this isn’t a traditional spin-off of S.H.I.E.L.D. but will focus on the “same character with [a] new story that lives unto its own.”
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https://ew.com/tv/2019/05/01/hulu-ghost-rider-helstrom-series/

Unless I'm mistaken, it seems like they mean "This Robbie Reyes did live through and experience the events of AoS's fourth season, but we won't be referring back to it in the show because we're marketing this as a Ghost Rider series to new viewers. Not the spin-off of another show they may or may not have seen, which will have no narrative bearing on the story we plan to tell."
 
Showrunner Ingrid Escajeda was a writer on both Better Off Ted and Justified. That gives me hope that, whatever the tone of the series, she'll be able to pull it off. Any added social commentary will just be icing on the cake. I haven't been this excited for a new Marvel TV series in a while.

Also, I'm so glad Marvel/Disney waited for Gabriel Luna to finish Terminator 3 Redux before moving forward with the show. He made me fall in love with a character that I always equated in my head with the Spawns, Venoms and Lobos of the world. I know Luna said back in 2016 after his SHIELD arc ended that there were plans at Marvel/Disney for him to star in a Ghost Rider show, but plans can always change. Good for him.
 
OCD Geek said:
There's been some clarification from Hulu via Entertainment Weekly about whether this is the same Robbie Reyes we saw in Agents of SHIELD.


https://ew.com/tv/2019/05/01/hulu-ghost-rider-helstrom-series/

Unless I'm mistaken, it seems like they mean "This Robbie Reyes did live through and experience the events of AoS's fourth season, but we won't be referring back to it in the show because we're marketing this as a Ghost Rider series to new viewers. Not the spin-off of another show they may or may not have seen, which will have no narrative bearing on the story we plan to tell."
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Happy to get some clarification. Did you post that over in the general MCU thread yet? There's a conversation going on in there right now about what the new show means for AoS's MCU canon status.
 
JD said:
Happy to get some clarification. Did you post that over in the general MCU thread yet? There's a conversation going on in there right now about what the new show means for AoS's MCU canon status.
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Oh, damn. Posting it there didn't even occur to me. Thanks. I'm on it.
 
I'd like to see that but I don't have Hulu and really don't want to get it. I'd still like to see one of the other Ghost RIders, but maybe they wouldn't want to make any others because multiple separate characters with the same exact name can be confusing.
 
We already know there was at least one other Ghost Rider before Robbie in AoS, so I could see them introducing more in his solo series.
 
OCD Geek said:
[...] Unless I'm mistaken, it seems like they mean "This Robbie Reyes did live through and experience the events of AoS's fourth season, but we won't be referring back to it in the show because we're marketing this as a Ghost Rider series to new viewers. Not the spin-off of another show they may or may not have seen, which will have no narrative bearing on the story we plan to tell."
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That will be my hope, then - that this new show doesn't exist in some separate continuity, so that viewers who have watched both shows can have a little "extra" understanding of the character's TV history without it being necessary for new viewers. Leaves the door open for small nods back to his SHIELD experiences and especially for any future crossover of SHIELD characters they might like to try to arrange.

That said, I'm not all that certain how interested I am in this show at all. Ghost Rider wasn't a character that has grabbed my attentions during comics reads in the past and during first-run on SHIELD I didn't find the character all that compelling. When I rewatched AoS recently pre-Endgame, his inclusion worked better for me, but there are still so many other characters that I'd be more excited to see adapted.
 
PsychoPere said:
That will be my hope, then - that this new show doesn't exist in some separate continuity, so that viewers who have watched both shows can have a little "extra" understanding of the character's TV history without it being necessary for new viewers.
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I think they've clarified that that is the case.
 
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