Lursa's Child?

[CitadelZombies]

I was watching the season 7 episode 'Firstborn' last night, in the episode its revealed that Lursa is with child. Is there any information about what happens to it before Lursas death in Star Trek: Generations?
How much time has passed between the episode and the film?

Thanks.

 

[Green Shirt]

Examining the stardates might give a rough idea.

 

[CitadelZombies]

Thanks

Yeah looking at the stardates there's around 11 months between Firstborn and Generations. So there's plenty of time between.

 

[Timo]

...Although we don't really know how long a Klingon pregnancy takes. We got a "quarterbreed" pregnancy in both TNG (Alexander Rodzhenko is 3/4 Klingon) and VOY (Miral Paris is 1/4 Klingon). The former supposedly spanned SD 42901-43205, that is, just 300 stardates or three-four months - but only assuming that Alexander correctly quotes his own birthday in "New Ground", and that his conception took place during "The Emissary" and not during the previous liaison between Worf and K'Ehleyr. The latter spans at least SD 54452-54973, or 500 stardates or six months - but the starting date is not that of conception, it's that of Torres discovering she is pregnant by an estimated seven weeks, so it's a pregnancy of a bit less than eight months.

Since Alexander is theoretically closer to full Klingon biologically, it seems safe (with the above caveats!) to assume that Lursa's child was born less than 11 months after "Firstborn". Unless these short pregnancies are typical of hybrids and shorter than those of either participating species.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[The_Baroness]

Hang on. A Stardate isn't a full day then? Cos if it were 300 would be almost a year...10 months roughly.

 

[Timo]

We don't know how much a single stardate is in days or hours (or, rather, we have dozens of different datapoints for that - it could be a couple of hours, or close to a week, depending on which character you ask and when). But a thousand stardates is one season, which in the spinoffs is taken to also be one Earth year.

We could extrapolate that a thousand stardates equaled one year back in TOS already, too - meaning that we saw all the five years of the mission in the three seasons of TOS. But trying to figure out how many years pass between the TOS movies would not work too well using that system. And Klingon pregnancies won't get any easier to understand by studying TOS or the TOS movies.

How fast do Klingons grow in their early childhood? Alexander was at least two-three years ahead of the human curve in his first appearance. Would Lursa's kid be holding his/her first dagger at the age of three months already? Would he/she be aboard the ship that Riker blasted to bits, or in a nursery somewhere, or fighting a different campaign using a baby-sized disruptor? We never really heard that the Duras line would have gone extinct with the Twisted Sisters, so the character is available for future storylines. And he has indeed been used in those, namely in the Star Trek Online continuity:

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Ja'rod,_son_of_Torg

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Green Shirt]

No question has a simple answer around here.

 

[T'Girl]

... in the episode its revealed that Lursa is with child.

As part of how long Klingon women carry would be the consideration of how long Lursa had already been pregnant. With future medical scanners, a woman could know as soon as fertilization occurred, or Lursa might not have realized until she "missed."

By the time of Generations Lursa by appearances was no longer pregnant, it's possible that when the Bird of Prey was destroyed, the child was somewhere aboard and was killed.
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[Lance]

It is a pity they didn't take up the gauntlet of this one.

In hindsight, the whole 'Redemption' arc kind of petered out when they decided to kill them off in the movie, when they could've milked the feud between Worf and the Duras clan for years into DS9. Especially after they brought Alexander back. So much missed potential.

On the other hand, maybe it's best that they dropped it when they did? It could've gotten tiresome, I guess, to keep revisiting it all the time.

 

[Terok Nor]

Any guesses on who the father is?

Picard? Worf? Riker? Quark? Bashir? Gowron? Morn?????????

 

[Tracy Trek]

Wasn't the sisters' nephew killed in DS9? What was his name, Toral?

 

[Terok Nor]

Wasn't the sisters' nephew killed in DS9? What was his name, Toral?

I'm not sure. I think he was left bleeding to death but he could have survived somehow.

 

[Dukhat]

Wasn't the sisters' nephew killed in DS9? What was his name, Toral?

His name was Toral, but no, he was not killed. He was, however, played by a different actor in DS9 than he was in TNG.

 

[Tracy Trek]

So either he or Lursa's son would continue the line of their family?

 

[Terok Nor]

I'd love to see the Duras family somehow take control of the empire and revert it back to the old ways. Maybe they could assassinate Martok. Fastforward several decades and the Klingons are enemy number one once again.

 

[Lance]

Any guesses on who the father is?

Picard? Worf? Riker? Quark? Bashir? Gowron? Morn?????????

"It was dark. They were willing. I ask you, what is an Honorable Warrior to do in such circumstances???"

 

[T'Girl]

Any guesses on who the father is?

A little genetic manipulation.

The child was created when the sisters had sex with each other.

+

 

[Finn]

Or maybe it was Toral

 

[Vanyel]

Wouldn't the child belong to its father's House? The father could have claimed him and he'd be safe on Qo'noS? The time traveling done by future Alexander could have allowed Lursa to let the child be with his father and away from the dangers she put herself in.

 

[Finn]

^Nah, Lursa and B'etor would have manipulated the father. There's no way Lursa would get herself pregnant without being sure she'd still have power.

I'm guessing it's not one of the big houses.