Lost 6x15: "Across the Sea"

[Agent Richard07]

Welcome to the grading & discussion thread for Lost 6x15: "Across the Sea".
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"Across the Sea"

"Locke's intentions are finally brought to light." - TV.com

Spoiler: Across the Sea

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[coolghoul]

Ok - this is the big mythology episode, isn't it?

I'm looking forward to a lot of eye-opening revelations which will change the nature of how we see the island, SmokeyLocke, Jacob and by extension the candidates.

Are we frelling there yet?

 

[Plomeek Broth]

This is the one I have been waiting for (and I'm sure many other people too) since Season 6 began. I'm hoping it has a cinematic feel like Ab Aeterno did.

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

 

[Woulfe]

Mythology Episode, yup 100%

No Sideways 'verse in this one, as far as we know.....

- W -
* At lest there shouldn't be, but flashbackin' in a big way *

 

[Trippy]

I expect my mind to be blown

 

[Elemental]

Ugh, guys I missed the intro before the first commercial break. Could someone give me a quick summary? Please?? XD

 

[The Habs Fan]

Above Average

Not the best episode of Lost ever but passable. The "light" is intriguing and it was nice to get the answer to Adam & Eve. Other than that, it felt like a waste of an episode.

 

[Mr Light]

Automatic 4/4, obviously. So many answers... but so many questions as well. Was Mother a god or a fake? She didn't seem to know what was going on but just pretended to. Yet she had the power to wipe out that civilization. Did she have the Cerebus powers? Did she go in the Wellspring of Souls herself and that's how she knows what happens if you do? When she said she made it so the brothers could never kill each other... was this literally true? Or did they merely believe this? And where the hell did she come from? Was she just a Roman woman who crashed onto the Island at some point? Why the **** didn't they ever name the Brother? You mean to tell me thirty years of his life and he never got a frickin' name?! And if the Island is the source of all life/soul, is the Island God? Is the Island conscious? It seems to be, yet we saw no signs of that in this episode. I'm still not clear on the mechanics of the Donkey Wheel. How did they determine that cranking a wheel into the Wellspring would magically teleport you off the Island?

 

[Agent Richard07]

I wanted to give this one an "excellent", but I just couldn't. It was a great hour and I was fixated the whole time, but it felt incomplete, like they were just skimming the surface. We didn't get much of any substance.

How did Jacob become immortal?

Who was this woman who raised them?

Why did she bash the real mother's skull in?

They didn't address these things. Hopefully they'll get to what the light, the island and the smoke monster are before the end. You guys were right by the way. Titus Welliver's character wasn't the smoke monster's first human identity.

 

[What's his face]

I wanted to give this one an "excellent", but I just couldn't. It was a great hour and I was fixated the whole time, but it felt incomplete, like they were just skimming the surface. We didn't get much of any substance.

How did Jacob become immortal?

Who was this woman who raised them?

Why did she bash the real mother's skull in?

They didn't address these things. Hopefully they'll get to what the light, the island and the smoke monster are before the end. You guys were right by the way. Titus Welliver's character wasn't the smoke monster's first human identity.

Agreed. I hope there is more clarification before the series ends.

 

[RoJoHen]

How did Jacob become immortal?

The CrazyMom made them immortal. She told them she made sure death was something they'd never have to worry about.

Who was this woman who raised them?

The protector of the Island. I think she might be who the Statue was built for.

Why did she bash the real mother's skull in?

To prevent the real mother from taking the kids back to her people. She didn't want them to become corrupted by man.

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[DarthPipes]

I thought this episode could have benefitted from being two hours. It was above avearge. Not a bad hour of TV and Allison Janney gave a good performance. Points for some questions being answered.

 

[Mr Light]

The Mother clearly had some kind of super-powers. When the pregnant woman fell into her arms she saw an opportunity to raise her own family, so she killed the mother and raised the boys, giving them magical immortality and the inability to kill each other. Yet she thanked Cerebus for killing her... was she cursed with immortality and looking for her own loophole? It does seem likely she went down into the Wellspring and became a Smoke Monster. Maybe the ultimate purpose of raising the kids was to a) create a replacement guardian of the Island and b) get one to kill her.

 

[Danny99]

Average.

It did fill in holes in the mythos, but created more questions, which is insane with only two episodes left.

 

[Mr Light]

Holy crap I forgot about the Statue! This episode didn't do anything to explain the Statue. Maybe there was an Eygptian civilization on the Island that preceded Mother and the boys. Still would have been nice to have shown them seeing the Statue and asking who built it and she says the people before us.

 

[RoJoHen]

Holy crap I forgot about the Statue! This episode didn't do anything to explain the Statue. Maybe there was an Eygptian civilization on the Island that preceded Mother and the boys. Still would have been nice to have shown them seeing the Statue and asking who built it and she says the people before us.

I honestly think Jacob must have built it in honor of his mother, which is also why he lived there. This is why we didn't see the Statue in this episode. It hadn't been built yet.

 

[Velocity]

I agree, this episode was a letdown. I'm just not that interested in Jacob and his magical family.

 

[Agent Richard07]

Yeah, the wheel... It was nice to see it, but that was something else that wasn't explained properly. The way it worked sounded like the start of something fascinating, but in the end, no real explanation.

I was also wondering where the statue came from, but I assume it was built by people who came to the island, possibly to honor Jacob. If there's another explanation, and it wouldn't surprise me if there was one, I can't wait to hear what it is.

And finally, no name for the brother? That was odd. I thought they'd surprise us with one. Was he actually not named? Or did we just not get to hear it?

 

[Kira's Mom]

Above average. Answered a lot of questions about Smokey and Jacob. How it will fit in with the rest of the story remains to be seen...

And finally, no name for the brother? That was odd. I thought they'd surprise us with one. Was he actually not named? Or did we just not get to hear it?

Not giving a major character a name (or a last name but no first name) is a device used in a lot of literature. For example, in Rebecca, the second Mrs. deWinter's first name is never revealed. I'm not all that bothered by MIB not having a name.

 

[Mr Light]

I forgot Jacob was living in the Statue's foot. I guess he did build it in honor of his mother. Does anyone have the slightest idea when on the timeline these events happened in terms of the people that visited the Island? The Mother spoke Latin, how old is that language? BTW when they first glimpsed the people killing the pig... the way they kept obscuring their faces... I thought they were supposed to be cavemen at first!