La Sirena problem in season 3 of Star Trek Picard

[Garak234]

The key obvoius difference between La Sirena and a Starfleet vessel is that it is an ad hoc collection of a task force not a Starfleet or professional vessel, has alot less powers then a Starfleet vessel to deal with problems and Picard(who now has an extra hundred years added to his life) probably doesnt have the desire to become independent from the UFP and fight the Orion syndicate, live of latinum ect . There also needs to be a good reason for the characters to not go there seperate ways. Much of the problems discovered by the Sirena are now in the hands of Starfleet. Thus once Picard returns to his timeline Picard will either split up the Sirena, or find a reason "20 years later"for the crew to reassemble. For Star trek Picard to be transformed into ST La Sirena, with the same crew, it would likely need Picard or recovered Rios to bring coherency to create a crew and then be a courier vessel in the wild frontier of the UFP. Making the La Sirena into a Starfleet vessel would greatly change the DNA of the show which explores vice in the Star trek universe so is unlikely. Thus it would likely take a while for Star Trek Picard to find it's identity post Picard with the nature of La Sirena the defining challenge if the show wants to go for the full 5-7 seasons

 

[The Old Mixer]

Alright @Garak234 , I'm going to have to ask you to slow down on creating so many new threads. The line where thread creation becomes spammy is a subjectively blurry one, but most posters don't create five in four days. Most of these topics could probably be discussed in existing threads if you looked; for example, several of them could easily be folded into this old chestnut.

 

[Tuskin38]

Plus some could be asked in the general discussion thread

 

[Nerys Myk]

The key obvoius difference between La Sirena and a Starfleet vessel is that it is an ad hoc collection of a task force

Are vou talking about the crew or the ship?

 

[Dukhat]

The key obvoius difference between La Sirena and a Starfleet vessel is that it is an ad hoc collection of a task force not a Starfleet or professional vessel, has alot less powers then a Starfleet vessel to deal with problems and Picard(who now has an extra hundred years added to his life) probably doesnt have the desire to become independent from the UFP and fight the Orion syndicate, live of latinum ect . There also needs to be a good reason for the characters to not go there seperate ways. Much of the problems discovered by the Sirena are now in the hands of Starfleet. Thus once Picard returns to his timeline Picard will either split up the Sirena, or find a reason "20 years later"for the crew to reassemble. For Star trek Picard to be transformed into ST La Sirena, with the same crew, it would likely need Picard or recovered Rios to bring coherency to create a crew and then be a courier vessel in the wild frontier of the UFP. Making the La Sirena into a Starfleet vessel would greatly change the DNA of the show which explores vice in the Star trek universe so is unlikely. Thus it would likely take a while for Star Trek Picard to find it's identity post Picard with the nature of La Sirena the defining challenge if the show wants to go for the full 5-7 seasons

When DS9 got the Defiant, did they change the name of the show to Star Trek: Defiant?

The ship is irrelevant. The show is about Picard, not the ship he’s on.

 

[Quinton]

Picard didn't gain another century of life, btw. Far less.

 

[Jedi Marso]

The key obvoius difference between La Sirena and a Starfleet vessel is that it is an ad hoc collection of a task force not a Starfleet or professional vessel-

This is grammatically nonsensical.

 

[Danja]

The key obvoius difference between La Sirena and a Starfleet vessel is that it is an ad hoc collection of a task force not a Starfleet or professional vessel,

What's wrong with THAT?

There's more than one way to tell a Star Trek story (we have nine series worth of Traditional Trek to choose from).

IDIC

There also needs to be a good reason for the characters to not go there seperate ways.

Seven and Raffi are an item.

I'm sure the producers will find a way to keep the team together.

Thus once Picard returns to his timeline Picard will either split up the Sirena, or find a reason "20 years later"for the crew to reassemble.

Who says? You?

 

[Garak234]

What's wrong with THAT?

There's more than one way to tell a Star Trek story (we have nine series of Traditional Trek to choose from).

IDIC




Seven and Raffi are an item.

I'm sure the producers will find a way to keep the team together.



Who says? You?

This is just a guess, I'm personally hoping for 5-7 seasons(it is still a Star Trek show with some good aspects already noticed on 1st watch like Romulans and Synths) but the transformation of La Sarina from a private vessel that was expediant to use to save the Synths to the permanent ship of the crew and not an adhoc arrangement will constitute a seasonal arc imo

 

[Garak234]

Picard didn't gain another century of life, btw. Far less.

He's an Android so with his synth body physically intact he has a longer lifespan(probably the same lifespan of the Synth planet inhabitants to be exact(though it is unclear if we have that specific piece of information on the lifespan of Noonian Synths)

 

[Lord Garth]

I'm not going to speculate on Season 3 when I haven't even seen Season 2.

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Picard didn't gain another century of life, btw. Far less.

He's an Android so with his synth body physically intact he has a longer lifespan(probably the same lifespan of the Synth planet inhabitants to be exact(though it is unclear if we have that specific piece of information on the lifespan of Noonian Synths)

They addressed this specifically in Season 1 finale, and as @Quinton said, he did not gain the typical lifespan of a synth.

Dr. Jurati put it the best:

We designed a cellular homeostasis algorithm that should give you more or less the same number of years you would have expected without the brain condition.

So he’ll live about as long as tends to be expected of humans at the turn of the Century from the 24th to the 25th, which I don’t believe has been established as having an additional century on top of Picard’s 94 years at the time of his consciousness’s transference into the Golem.

 

[Lord Garth]

Based on McCoy in TNG, and a line Keiko told to O'Brien about living to 140 on DS9, I think that 140 for them would be like 100 for us. If the average lifespan for us is 80, or 80% of 100 if you want to put it like that, then the average life-span for them is probably 80% of 140. I'd say 112.

If the average lifespan is 112, then 94 still works as "old". It just isn't as old as it would be for us. So Picard probably might have less than even 20 years left. New body or not.

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Based on McCoy in TNG, and a line Keiko told to O'Brien about living to 140 on DS9, I think that 140 for them would be like 100 for us. If the average lifespan for us is 80, or 80% of 100 if you want to put it like that, then the average life-span for them is probably 80% of 140. I'd say 112.

If the average lifespan is 112, then 94 still works as "old". It just isn't as old as it would be for us. So Picard probably might have less than even 20 years left. New body or not.

That makes sense/sounds right. Nicely done.

 

[Dukhat]

He's an Android so with his synth body physically intact he has a longer lifespan(probably the same lifespan of the Synth planet inhabitants to be exact(though it is unclear if we have that specific piece of information on the lifespan of Noonian Synths)

He's not an android. He's just an artificial copy of his old body, the main difference being that he now will not die of Irumodic syndrome. He will still die of old age.

Go back and watch the show again.

 

[Garak234]

Picard is 94 According to memory beta and the lifespan of the 24th century is in the hundreds so the Synth body should give Picard a few more decades but the bigger question is what happens to Picard's memories when he dies- being a synth and can Picard be turned on again(willingly or against his will)?

 

[fireproof78]

Picard is 94 According to memory beta and the lifespan of the 24th century is in the hundreds so the Synth body should give Picard a few more decades but the bigger question is what happens to Picard's memories when he dies- being a synth and can Picard be turned on again(willingly or against his will)?

He dies.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Picard is 94 According to memory beta and the lifespan of the 24th century is in the hundreds so the Synth body should give Picard a few more decades but the bigger question is what happens to Picard's memories when he dies- being a synth and can Picard be turned on again(willingly or against his will)?

When and if they write that episode, we'll know.

 

[Danlav05]

if you look at twitter

Spoiler

we're getting a decent look at a Starfleet vessel in Season 3

 

[WarpFactorZ]

if you look at twitter

Spoiler

we're getting a decent look at a Starfleet vessel in Season 3

And, of course, it helps to know where to look on Twitter (it's a big place)...

Hint: Terry Matalas