"Kick Ass" Review Thread
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uhh its not out till mid-April I thought
Yeah I thought it wasn't coming out until April 16th. I've been looking forward to this movie for months now. I'll be seeing it opening day with my friend.
Some may have seen a pre-screening. The movie doesn't come out for a couple more weeks. It was also released in the UK last week.
Roger Ebert gave this movie * out of **** stars. Basically his opening and closing paragraphs can sum up his opinion in a nutshell. It was sort of like how he was down on War of the Worlds because it was from the director of E.T.
I loved this movie. Even more fun than Matthew Vaughn's last movie, "Stardust".
I haven't seen the filom, but I think Ebert's point is simply this: she's 11.
That's it, in a nutshell. I love a bad-ass female that kicks butt in a film, that's like ym favorite thing to see, because, lets admit it, it's cool... but this girl is not even near of age, so the charm of seeing a female kick butt here is lost completely becvuase 11-year-old girls are basically the same as 11-year-old boys at that age. When you have kids of that age in a film, its important to play then them in a genuine way. Even in a fantasy like E.T. the kid has to be real, sensitive, ambitious and flawed. The idea of having an unemotional 11-year old, be it male or male or female, with the ability to kill m,any adults without even considering the ramifications is taking too far. I have no desire to see this movie.
That's it, in a nutshell. I love a bad-ass female that kicks butt in a film, that's like ym favorite thing to see, because, lets admit it, it's cool... but this girl is not even near of age, so the charm of seeing a female kick butt here is lost completely becvuase 11-year-old girls are basically the same as 11-year-old boys at that age. When you have kids of that age in a film, its important to play then them in a genuine way. Even in a fantasy like E.T. the kid has to be real, sensitive, ambitious and flawed. The idea of having an unemotional 11-year old, be it male or male or female, with the ability to kill m,any adults without even considering the ramifications is taking too far. I have no desire to see this movie.
That quite obviously is not what he means, and it's a distinction that Ebert probably has a firmer grasp upon than do fans who are unnecessarily reactive to criticism of fantasies they're attached to.
Beyond which...the success of a film, of course, is predicated upon it having an entertainment appeal far beyond that of the source material. There's not one good reason that a moviegoer who is not already a fan of the comic should give a damn whether the film is at all satisfactory to the already-indoctrinated enthusiast. To have any value beyond that of momentary novelty it must stand entirely on its own.
Yeah I suspect I'll love the movie, and I get that it's supposed to be a satire of sorts.... but I do think having a little girl get beat up within an inch of her life probably DOES cross a line somewhere. Even in a fantasy movie.
Heck, the fact it's a fantasy movie might even seem to trivialize it and make it worse.
Heck, the fact it's a fantasy movie might even seem to trivialize it and make it worse.
Especially as much of the apparent point of the movie is to portray these things as if they might "happen in the real world." And a good deal of Ebert's point, which he makes effectively, is that in the midst of all of this the eleven-year-old in particular is called upon to do things which are both physically impossible and emotionally traumatizing without acknowledgment of either of those facts.
In other words, besides any other considerations it's a massive cheat.
Checkmate
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Please fee free to enlighten me.
At best, he's saying that the movie doesn't do the comic book justice. Which he's clearly never read based upon the rest of his comments and even possibly hinting that this might be the case.
At worst, he's insulting people for enjoying a clearly fictional and unrealistic movie because, for whatever reason, he can't tell the difference between that and a person's genuine beliefs and moral outlook. Because, you know, they enjoy a movie with gratuitous violence, profanity that in no way whatsoever tries to present itself as reality. So, naturally, they want to see 11-year-old girls running around, killing everything in sight, and being beaten to a pulp in the real world.
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I don't have any problem with Hit-Girl, but I respect those that do. It's not difficult to understand why some people find a movie with an 11 year old girl dishing out bloody carnage and calling people cunts and cocks and get the shit beat out of her to be stomach turning.
For instance, on another topic, I don't have an interest in seeing women get raped on film. It doesn't matter how awful it is when a building full of people blows up or people get shot by guns, rape is just not something i want to see on film while I"m generally cool with the other violent stuff. If you do it accurately, it evokes stomach turning feelings of "i no longer want to watch this". If you don't do it accurately and pull back from it, i feel anger at making light of it. Its just a lose lose.
I get that sometimes, some things just rub people the wrong way. Ebert had similar misgivings, though not as intense, about The Professional, with a 12 year old girl hitman, so little girls in bloody fantasy violence is a personal line for him.
Is that really a sentiment we should be criticizing? I actually kind of admire that there are some people who haven't been so desensitized by media.
I'm not one of those people though, I still can't wait to see Kick-Ass.
For instance, on another topic, I don't have an interest in seeing women get raped on film. It doesn't matter how awful it is when a building full of people blows up or people get shot by guns, rape is just not something i want to see on film while I"m generally cool with the other violent stuff. If you do it accurately, it evokes stomach turning feelings of "i no longer want to watch this". If you don't do it accurately and pull back from it, i feel anger at making light of it. Its just a lose lose.
I get that sometimes, some things just rub people the wrong way. Ebert had similar misgivings, though not as intense, about The Professional, with a 12 year old girl hitman, so little girls in bloody fantasy violence is a personal line for him.
Is that really a sentiment we should be criticizing? I actually kind of admire that there are some people who haven't been so desensitized by media.
I'm not one of those people though, I still can't wait to see Kick-Ass.
I want to see this movie because of HitGirl, the young actress looks awesome, seems to play the part awesomely and watching the Red-Box trailers with her in it sold me on the movie. I think when you have to put your notions behind and just accept certain things "because it's a movie."
Watching and enjoying this is partly because it's so unexpected to see an 11 year old girl behave in such a way and I think this movie is going to make a star of the actress.
Obviously, the movie isn't made for people in Ebert's demographic. It seems that Kick Ass is just another in a long line of movies where Ebert decides he doesn't like it after fixating on some minor, or even major, aspect of it. This movie is hardly the first time a pre-teen girl has been treated in such a manner. He also seems to rant some on this movie being seen by younger viewers. Such a notion is stupid. The movie is Rated-R and the comic-book is aimed towards adults. Just because it's "a comic book" doesn't mean it has to be light-hearted, goofy and PG-13 like Spider-man.
I can't wait to go see this movie, it looks awesome and purely because of Hit Girl. The McLovin' guy also has my interest piqued, not so much the stock-character of the nerdy guy trying to impress his love-interest.
Watching and enjoying this is partly because it's so unexpected to see an 11 year old girl behave in such a way and I think this movie is going to make a star of the actress.
Obviously, the movie isn't made for people in Ebert's demographic. It seems that Kick Ass is just another in a long line of movies where Ebert decides he doesn't like it after fixating on some minor, or even major, aspect of it. This movie is hardly the first time a pre-teen girl has been treated in such a manner. He also seems to rant some on this movie being seen by younger viewers. Such a notion is stupid. The movie is Rated-R and the comic-book is aimed towards adults. Just because it's "a comic book" doesn't mean it has to be light-hearted, goofy and PG-13 like Spider-man.
I can't wait to go see this movie, it looks awesome and purely because of Hit Girl. The McLovin' guy also has my interest piqued, not so much the stock-character of the nerdy guy trying to impress his love-interest.
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god this looks so good.
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