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Is FUTURE'S END pretty much perfect?

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david g

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Rewatching this third season two-parter, Im amazed at its seamlessness, ingenuity, and charm. It has a great premise and the entire cast is in top, funny form. They also introduce the "temporal arc" that I wish VOY had explored in greater detail, Braxton, and the Doc's mobile emitter. The episode is also a brilliant critique of the way 60s hippie-liberalism mutated into 90s capitalist commercialism.

"Chronowerk's stock...is about to crash!"
 
Well, since Voyager itself is pretty much perfect it stands to reason that Future's End is too.
 
was of the most unrealistic things I found happening in Futures End was the lack of any obvious sign that the Supermen were putting the world to the sword every bit as good as the incumbent WWIII... Look out your windows Americans... Does it seem that your entire Military and economy is invested into a siege half way around the globe as I type this?

And the band played on.
 
If '60s TOS predictions for times we have now seen didn't come to pass, why not decanonize them to reflect reality? And if real Vulcans make official contact next year, let's adjust Trek First Contact Day, as well.

That said, how many and which, if any, Trek movies would you rate as better than Future's End?
 
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So you think the sleeper ship in Raines office was a toy rather than a model of a space ship in production and use by the US government in 1996?
 
LCARS 24 said:
If '60s TOS predictions for times we have now seen didn't come to pass, why not decanonize them to reflect reality?
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Rather than asking "why not," I would ask "why?" What is accomplished by this? And how exactly is an on-screen date to be "decanonized" when the fact that it was stated on screen places it in the canon by definition?
 
Let's just say that if I mentioned in the 1960s in a work of fiction set in the distant future that Gene Roddenbery was elected U.S. president in 1980, in any follow-up work written after 1980 I just wouldn't mention it. It might have been okay until that date arrrived, but I wouldn't want to continue referring to something that turned out not to happen. Why be wrong on purpose?
 
When 1988 rolled around, a friend of mine spazzed out claiming that Buck Roger's lied to him, demanding to know why a nuclear war hadn't destroyed the earth a year earlier?

If there isn't a second sun in the sky come 2010 I'm going to scream blue bloody murder.

Fiction is fiction and it diverges from reality as cleanly as you want it to. :)
 
"Future's End" is a brilliant episode.

I must also state that I find Henry Starling an excellent villain. I also like the friendly jab to Bill Gates and Microsoft. Actually funny. :)

As for the debate about "de-canonization" of certain Star Trek events which were predicted in the 60:s but never happened, can't we just assume that Starlings dabbling with time simply erased the Eugenics Wars and similar events or at least postponed them to a later date? :bolian:
 
Hey, all we know about the war is this Seek (turban + Sword + long hair.) from India (United Indiastan? Bangladesh, that area...) called Khan ruled South East Asia ( the conglomerate name for that area.) while 3/4's of the earth was in bitter conflict of man vs superman... And more recently Captain Archer said that the Eugenics war extend to South Africa and his grandfather was an officer in it.

America is smart enough to make sure their wars are fought elsewhere, and ignore other peoples wars if there's no profit in them. It might have happened quite like Kirk and Spock described it for there to be no discriminable evidence that the world was in some serious conflict at the time.

Hey Looky! Neelix is on Bones right now!
 
Just rewatched that episode. Loved it. Very big storytelling. And it introduced us to the Janeway ponytail.
 
One of my favourite Voyager stories, however it's not quite perfect - the bit in Part 2 where Chakotay and Torres are captured by the isolationists (or whatever) feels like unnecessary padding - although it does lead to the Doctor's wonderful 'Divine intervention is... unlikely' line :)
 
I like it a lot, but it gave us the mobile emitter, and the characterization of Doc went downhill from there--though Picardo was always wonderful and his acting is probably why they did more with Doc outside of sickbay than they should have.
 
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