is bucky a bad word ?

[drychlick]

captain america oid parter bucky been around for 70 year! but when they made a new cap and bucky for the 80 they soon rename him battle star! he was a black man and in the comic a man come up to him and told him bucky was a racest word for a black man in the south! Is this true? then was timely(marvel) back then racest for useing bucky then your take love dr

 

[Mr. Adventure]

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/01/24/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-139/

I see this sometimes as time goes on that someone inadvertently trips over something unknowingly racist because the terms or their origins aren't known by most or have been lost to time.

I saw someone accused of being racist by suggesting someone pick something randomly by "eenie meenie miney moe". Until hearing about that I myself had never heard that this rhyme had a racist variant because I grew up with the sanitized version.

 

[Forbin]

We must be very niggardly with our language these days!

I hear there's a movement to change Gene Coon's name in the Star Trek credits to something more socially acceptable.

 

[Shazam!]

We must be very niggardly with our language these days!

I hear there's a movement to change Gene Coon's name in the Star Trek credits to something more socially acceptable.

That's true enough. I also heard that they're going to digitally make everyone black.

Except for Uhura.

Who will be white.

 

[Trent Roman]

On topic... African-Americans were, for years, caricatured as being buck-toothed, and this was apparently spun off into a new slur, "buck", as a dimunitive of that, referring more specifically to young black men.

I swear, racial slurs must have been the only time these people broke out the thesaurus. Spooks, spades, coons, bucks... Damn inconsistent racists. Pick a word and stick to it.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Nick Ryder]

Battlestar did NOT get his name because "Bucky" was a racist name, he changed it because he was no longer a "BUC-y" a "Bold Urban Commando" that was started basically as a group of WWF like genetically altered beefy guys who worked with "Captain America" the same dork who became USAgent, John Watkins. The B.U.C's were sort of disbanded and then he went to Silver Sable and it was in her title that he got the new name "Battlestar". The current Cap NOW is the original Bucky. And he's called "Bucky" a lot.

 

[Chaos Descending]

Battlestar did NOT get his name because "Bucky" was a racist name

The dialog in the issue in which he changes it to Battlestar explicitly states that he doesn't want to be called "Bucky" because it's a racist name.

 

[Anwar]

And also because it was the name of a dead white teenager. Fitting for him and his time period, but not for a grown man in the 80s.

 

[Galactus]

Battlestar did NOT get his name because "Bucky" was a racist name

The dialog in the issue in which he changes it to Battlestar explicitly states that he doesn't want to be called "Bucky" because it's a racist name.

Exactly.
NickRyder. How could you know so much about the story yet miss that part. Whatever happened to Battlestar anyway? I am sure he is not being used meaningfully.

 

[Anwar]

He was last seen in Civil War opposing the SRA, meaning he's on the run somewhere while Norman Osborn is having him hunted down.

 

[Cutter John]

I'm beginning to think that nearly every word in the english language is offensive to somebody.

Not that 'Bucky' works its way into my conversations all that often.

 

[Gojirob]

On topic... African-Americans were, for years, caricatured as being buck-toothed, and this was apparently spun off into a new slur, "buck", as a dimunitive of that, referring more specifically to young black men.

I swear, racial slurs must have been the only time these people broke out the thesaurus. Spooks, spades, coons, bucks... Damn inconsistent racists. Pick a word and stick to it.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

The British show 'Spooks' changed its name to MI-6 when it came over here, even though 'Spooks' is also a well-known term for spies. It just carries too much baggage on this side of the pond.

I remember Eddie Murphy mocking on ghost movies where the family stays in the house, saying a black family would clear out at the first 'Get Out!'. He said "Don't no N****** want nothing to do with no spooks!'

 

[Silvercrest]

Battlestar did NOT get his name because "Bucky" was a racist name

The dialog in the issue in which he changes it to Battlestar explicitly states that he doesn't want to be called "Bucky" because it's a racist name.

And also because it was the name of a dead white teenager. Fitting for him and his time period, but not for a grown man in the 80s.

AND in the real world, Mark Gruenwald made the change because he found out it was racist after he named the character. They talked about that in the letter column an issue or so before they made the change.

 

[Trent Roman]

The British show 'Spooks' changed its name to MI-6 when it came over here, even though 'Spooks' is also a well-known term for spies. It just carries too much baggage on this side of the pond.

I only learned about that one from The Human Stain.

I remember Eddie Murphy mocking on ghost movies where the family stays in the house, saying a black family would clear out at the first 'Get Out!'.

And then "The Haunted Mansion" happened...

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Nick Ryder]

Well I found that comic again... yeah you're right he did say it was racist. DUH. LOL Okay... I was going by memory, must have forgotten that line of dialogue. But still, the character thought it was racist, but Marvel has continued to use Bucky as "James Buchanan"'s nickname. So if its maybe capitalized as "BUCKY" then it's no big thang.

I HAVE been wondering whatever happened to Battlestar and the rest of Silver Sable's Wild Pack. Last I really saw of them was in Thunderbolts, and that was years and years ago now. I don't really even recall them in Civil War, at least they didn't stand out if they were there. I always like Silver Sable and the Pack. You think with Cap coming back and all that Battlestar would have come out and approached the 'new' Cap/Bucky. After all everyone knew the original Bucky died, so it could have been a neat meeting.

 

[Chaos Descending]

It's not racist to call a white kid Bucky, just a black guy.

For example, if I called my shovel a "spade", that would be ok. If I called my neighbor a "spade", that would NOT be ok.