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Interface, no it's in our face (Season 7 underrated gem)

Qonundrum

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I was about to rewatch "The Naked Now" after the pitiful "Descent II", but decided to continue with s7 disc1. So glad I had. It's nice to see a Trek episode involving seeking out new life, even if TNG forgot about that teensy little trope...

Geordi definitely seemed to remain in character as he likes to find the causes of problems (e.g. Next Phase, et al).

The automated probe idea is shades of VR, which was new in the 1990s, and used to great effect in this episode.

It's nice that Starfleet has kept auxiliary control rooms in ships. 1701-D's was never mentioned.

...47 minutes... always 47...

As always, the Geordi/Data help make the episode, or make it better. Even Data gets his AI on and decides to help Geordi.

This is already a great character-driven episode, with Geordi's father and mother on screen, great usage for Data, Troi, and Riker. Geordi's plight is built up slowly, like a can of soup on a stove, or a frog in a pot of water, and the heat is turned up. Is there such a thing as frog soup? I know of frog legs, which are even more gross if you use those to scoop up some escargot or caviar with in place of a spoon... like with for crab and lobster, weren't those current-day delicacies once deemed "peasant food"? But that info is a thousand years out of date... sure feels that way at times, though, especially when my wall-the-off tangents start to get flung... hmmm, frisbee as a serving platter? Maybe later...

I love that the episode comes across as character drama, not soap opera.

In true Trek formation, what Geordi sees is not her mother but a subspace being that's about to read his mind via the probe, hence his surviving when the crew hadn't.

Geordi['s mom also reminds me a tad of Captain Freeman as well.

This episode is really tightly written for the most part, certainly for season seven, but a couple nitpicks are found:

1. So people are saying that Geordi is making an assumption with no evidence... well, isn't everyone else but in the polar opposite direction?!! The story could have propped up Geordi by his using that as a retort as he's being accused of making decisions based on no evidence.

2. Why doesn't Picard recognize how many of the alien subspace life forms Geordi HAD SAVED?!!!! That's the biggest nitpick, the crew's goal is ostensibly to discover new life and it's pretty much incidental to the plot as much as this Kleenex is next to my keyboard as I need to sneeze. There, I just sneezed but I don't care about the bits of goo lodged in the cotton any more than Picard giving a damn about the subspace critters that Geordi rightly had saved. (In short, this aspect was glossed over and it's a headscratcher. The nonrecognition of saving life, not the bit of cotton fabric with nasal droppings plopped inside.) Besides, after Galaxy's Child where he feels guilt over that, or Silicone Avatar... then again, Geordi is a top-rated officer so that's where the dilemma is. Still, Picard was glossing over a bit much...

3. A shame that the data aboard the ship couldn't have been transmitted to the Enterprise as there seemed to be a few terminals he could have utilized.

The incidental music could have been more refined in a couple scenes (e.g. see the teaser for what would have made it work that much better!), but not once did it really detract. Still, the teasers really pack a punch and then you tune in and it's radically bland in turn.

Plus, as usual for latter-half TNG, the teasers rock.

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(The teaser fibbiedoodles with the story's plot, yes, but just a tad, and it's still a plus as TNG teasers sometimes gave directly away too much.)

The story isn't complex in plot, but it didn't need to be. The pacing and bulk of its ideas are well told, though part of me wishes that there could be an aftermath - but maybe that's the point: The Hera was lost and there was no way around that.

8/10 with ease
 
...and one of the few "fan theories" I actually like, that the Hera was possibly scooped up by the Caretaker.
 
I think that "Interface" was what happened when the powers that be realized that one of the nine TNG mains still had both parents alive, and decided they needed to fix that.

I mean, consider...
Picard: Orphan
Riker: Mother dead
Data: Father dead
Troi: Father dead
Crusher: Orphan
Worf: Orphan
Geordi: Mother dead
Wes: Father dead
Yar: Orphan

That's a 72% parent fatality rate.
 
I think that "Interface" was what happened when the powers that be realized that one of the nine TNG mains still had both parents alive, and decided they needed to fix that.

I mean, consider...
Picard: Orphan
Riker: Mother dead
Data: Father dead
Troi: Father dead
Crusher: Orphan
Worf: Orphan
Geordi: Mother dead
Wes: Father dead
Yar: Orphan

That's a 72% parent fatality rate.
 
While it’s not a bad story, a “VR” story made in the 90s was going to date itself very fast, especially since it would have made more sense to just hook a probe’s sensor/comms feed up to the holodeck and operate it from there. That’s the danger of doing a story around a then-current genre fad (see also the DS9 episode where somebody ‘jacked in to a computer; we never saw that again either).
 
What episode was that?
…you know, now you mention it I can’t remember the story, maybe someone will recognize this? I remember it being primarily an Odo episode I think, with someone at one point having to dangerously connect their brain to a computer or database via a cable. I’m sure I didn’t imagine this.
 
I checked the transcripts and no one "jacked into" a computer in anything. Perhaps another term was used.
 
Pretty sure “A Simple Investigation” is what you have in mind. Arissa is what they call a “net-girl”, who uses an implant on her neck to hack into computer systems.

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As for “Interface”, I’m surprised to learn how negatively it seems to rank among fans. I always enjoyed this episode and thought the whole Geordi steers a probe with his suit and visual implants was rather unique. I don’t think I ever looked at it as a “virtual reality” thing.
 
Pretty sure “A Simple Investigation” is what you have in mind. Arissa is what they call a “net-girl”, who uses an implant on her neck to hack into computer systems.
Ah, good guess. The only other one I can think of is from Honor Among Thieves.

Neither one has anyone ever mention jacking though. ;)

I’m surprised to learn how negatively it seems to rank among fans. I always enjoyed this episode
I used to think it was dull, but I don't mind it now. Although it's been some time since I watched it...my impression is that I originally was disappointed because the storyline is nothing special, but on my last rewatch I got more out of the character stuff.
 
The main thing I take from this episode is that Data is a better friend to Geordi than Geordi is to Data. Follow me on this. In the earlier 2-part episode Descent, Data kills a Borg in an inexplicably emotional way, prompting some major self-examination on his part, that speaks to the very core of his being.

During attempts to explain this, Data experiments with reenactments on the holodeck, but to truly complete his assessment, he needs to deactivate the safety protocols, requiring Geordie's participation, which Geordi outright refuses to provide, because of the mortal danger it could pose to Data.

Fast forward to Interface, & now it's Geordi trying to prove himself right about the Hera & his mother, by continuing to endanger himself via the interface, when Data finds him preparing to operate it himself. A nearly identical conversation takes places, about one of them letting the other endanger themselves for a theory.

However, even though Data could & probably should stop Geordi, for his own safety, & adhering to the captain's orders, he realizes how fundamentally important this is to his friend & decides to instead assist him, with as much safety & guidance as he can instill, which Geordi could've also done in their reverse circumstance, but didn't.

I imagine that after all this, Geordi must've felt like a real heel for having his friend show him the kind of faithful support that he'd previously refused to give.
 
I've still never seen this one

It's fun when you realize that "hey, there's an episode I have never gone through".
That doesn't happen these days anymore since I have watched all the STNG episodes but the extended version of 'The Measure of a Man' is pretty fresh to me, I have watched the longer version only once so far.
Confession, I have never watched the original TOS pilot 'The Cage'. Maybe some day. =)
 
Pretty sure “A Simple Investigation” is what you have in mind. Arissa is what they call a “net-girl”, who uses an implant on her neck to hack into computer systems.

M6bFnVd.jpeg


As for “Interface”, I’m surprised to learn how negatively it seems to rank among fans. I always enjoyed this episode and thought the whole Geordi steers a probe with his suit and visual implants was rather unique. I don’t think I ever looked at it as a “virtual reality” thing.
Yes! That was it. They maybe don’t use the term, but the visual reference is straight then-common cyberpunk.
 
It's fun when you realize that "hey, there's an episode I have never gone through".
That doesn't happen these days anymore since I have watched all the STNG episodes but the extended version of 'The Measure of a Man' is pretty fresh to me, I have watched the longer version only once so far.
Confession, I have never watched the original TOS pilot 'The Cage'. Maybe some day. =)
Yeah! I will definitely get to it one day. I have been doing a TNG rewatch but in semi real time. I watch one season, two episodes a week, a year. Right now I'm only up to Season 5. I only started at Season 3. There's gonna be episodes of Season 1 and 2 I feel I'll never watch, like Home Soil, Angel One and Manhunt
The Cage really holds up. It is like getting a window into an alternate Trek universe. I didn't feel it was any less exciting than WNMHGB
 
I was about to rewatch "The Naked Now" after the pitiful "Descent II", but decided to continue with s7 disc1. So glad I had. It's nice to see a Trek episode involving seeking out new life, even if TNG forgot about that teensy little trope...

Geordi definitely seemed to remain in character as he likes to find the causes of problems (e.g. Next Phase, et al).

The automated probe idea is shades of VR, which was new in the 1990s, and used to great effect in this episode.

It's nice that Starfleet has kept auxiliary control rooms in ships. 1701-D's was never mentioned.

...47 minutes... always 47...

As always, the Geordi/Data help make the episode, or make it better. Even Data gets his AI on and decides to help Geordi.

This is already a great character-driven episode, with Geordi's father and mother on screen, great usage for Data, Troi, and Riker. Geordi's plight is built up slowly, like a can of soup on a stove, or a frog in a pot of water, and the heat is turned up. Is there such a thing as frog soup? I know of frog legs, which are even more gross if you use those to scoop up some escargot or caviar with in place of a spoon... like with for crab and lobster, weren't those current-day delicacies once deemed "peasant food"? But that info is a thousand years out of date... sure feels that way at times, though, especially when my wall-the-off tangents start to get flung... hmmm, frisbee as a serving platter? Maybe later...

I love that the episode comes across as character drama, not soap opera.

In true Trek formation, what Geordi sees is not her mother but a subspace being that's about to read his mind via the probe, hence his surviving when the crew hadn't.

Geordi['s mom also reminds me a tad of Captain Freeman as well.

This episode is really tightly written for the most part, certainly for season seven, but a couple nitpicks are found:

1. So people are saying that Geordi is making an assumption with no evidence... well, isn't everyone else but in the polar opposite direction?!! The story could have propped up Geordi by his using that as a retort as he's being accused of making decisions based on no evidence.

2. Why doesn't Picard recognize how many of the alien subspace life forms Geordi HAD SAVED?!!!! That's the biggest nitpick, the crew's goal is ostensibly to discover new life and it's pretty much incidental to the plot as much as this Kleenex is next to my keyboard as I need to sneeze. There, I just sneezed but I don't care about the bits of goo lodged in the cotton any more than Picard giving a damn about the subspace critters that Geordi rightly had saved. (In short, this aspect was glossed over and it's a headscratcher. The nonrecognition of saving life, not the bit of cotton fabric with nasal droppings plopped inside.) Besides, after Galaxy's Child where he feels guilt over that, or Silicone Avatar... then again, Geordi is a top-rated officer so that's where the dilemma is. Still, Picard was glossing over a bit much...

3. A shame that the data aboard the ship couldn't have been transmitted to the Enterprise as there seemed to be a few terminals he could have utilized.

The incidental music could have been more refined in a couple scenes (e.g. see the teaser for what would have made it work that much better!), but not once did it really detract. Still, the teasers really pack a punch and then you tune in and it's radically bland in turn.

Plus, as usual for latter-half TNG, the teasers rock.

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(The teaser fibbiedoodles with the story's plot, yes, but just a tad, and it's still a plus as TNG teasers sometimes gave directly away too much.)

The story isn't complex in plot, but it didn't need to be. The pacing and bulk of its ideas are well told, though part of me wishes that there could be an aftermath - but maybe that's the point: The Hera was lost and there was no way around that.

8/10 with ease
This episode isn't terrible, it's just boring.
 
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