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In STID, when Kirk told Chekov to "go put a red shirt on",...?

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Why did Chekov dismayed? is the red shirt cursed in-universe too?

Another question: did you guys thought he would actually die in that movie?

I think Chekov is a secondary character whose death would not bring so much drama to plot, so no. I concluded it was a joke (or another piece of trivia thrown in for the fans), but not a very good one. I, for one, didn't laugh. And Chekov lived.
 
Why did Chekov dismayed? is the red shirt cursed in-universe too?

Another question: did you guys thought he would actually die in that movie?

I think Chekov is a secondary character whose death would not bring so much drama to plot, so no. I concluded it was a joke (or another piece of trivia thrown in for the fans), but not a very good one. I, for one, didn't laugh. And Chekov lived.
It's a joke for those in the audience who are fans.

No, I didn't think he would die.

Your conclusion is correct. I chuckled.
 
Why did Chekov dismayed? is the red shirt cursed in-universe too?

Another question: did you guys thought he would actually die in that movie?

I think Chekov is a secondary character whose death would not bring so much drama to plot, so no. I concluded it was a joke (or another piece of trivia thrown in for the fans), but not a very good one. I, for one, didn't laugh. And Chekov lived.
It's a joke for those in the audience who are fans.

No, I didn't think he would die.

Your conclusion is correct. I chuckled.

The dramatic music was a fun addition to the gag, too.

There were a couple fun moments in Voyager where they would poke fun at Star Trek tropes and cliches too, which I thought was occasionally nice.
 
I found it amusing.

It makes sense that, in-universe, the red shirts would have the same reputation as they do to the fans.
 
The scene had a dual meaning. In the real world it was a joke because everyone knows that red shirt = death. In universe, Chekov knows that if he's been promoted to chief engineer, it means Scotty's been fired. Hence, dismay.
 
I laughed because of the fan joke. Also, in universe, it made sense that Chekov would looked dismayed, both over the loss of Scotty and that he probably didn't feel qualified to take over the department.

Kirk obviously has confidence in Chekov but Chekov's face reads to me a complete lack of confidence.
 
The scene had a dual meaning. In the real world it was a joke because everyone knows that red shirt = death. In universe, Chekov knows that if he's been promoted to chief engineer, it means Scotty's been fired. Hence, dismay.

I laughed because of the fan joke. Also, in universe, it made sense that Chekov would looked dismayed, both over the loss of Scotty and that he probably didn't feel qualified to take over the department.

Kirk obviously has confidence in Chekov but Chekov's face reads to me a complete lack of confidence.

Beat me to it. Chekov's young and the Chief Engineer position is vital. But I like that despite his fears, Chekov stepped up to the plate. Reluctantly at first, even willing to admit fault (when there was none), but still doing his duty.

The first time I watched the scene where "Chief" Chekov reports to Kirk via intercom, when Chekov shuts it off the computer makes this whiney "wah" sound. At first I thought the computer was self aware to the point where it could do like a sad trombone for Chekov :)
 
I found it amusing.

It makes sense that, in-universe, the red shirts would have the same reputation as they do to the fans.

That's the way I saw it. I thought it was a very neat, and welcome in-joke without being in your face, much like the bit where Scotty is about to say 'shit' and it blends neatly into the door opening sound.
 
I found it funny and chuckled over it as well and, no, I didn't expect him to die in any upcoming scenes. It was just a nice little in-joke.
 
Chekov had been hanging around Scotty, so he must've had some respect for him and his depth of knowledge. He suddenly finds out in one short moment that Scotty is out, and he's the replacement. That would be quite a double shock.

Maybe we kind of chuckled in an "inside fandom double meaning" way, but I don't think he was reacting to having to put on the "red shirt" per se because, as Kirk pointed out to Pike earlier, Kirk hadn't lost a single crewman yet, no matter what color the shirt was.
 
I just took it that Chekov felt he was going in over his head as chief engineer. It was one of thing for him to dabble in engineering, quite another to suddenly be put in charge of it, especially with the ship about to go into danger, IMO.
 
In hindsight, it's hilarious that Lts. Cupcake and Nameless were ordered to remove their red shirts, and subsequently survived one of the fiercest away team missions in Trek history.

I'm sure there's a Starfleet research team studying the connection between red shirts and crew mortality rates :)
 
Well, in actuality, Chekov should have died or sent someone to their death, since that little engine problem that caused Kirk to need the Khan blood, would be his to deal with
 
I just took it that Chekov felt he was going in over his head as chief engineer. It was one of thing for him to dabble in engineering, quite another to suddenly be put in charge of it, especially with the ship about to go into danger, IMO.

I think that's the in-universe explanation (despite it probably being a known fact within Starfleet about red shirt mortality rates) but the scene was 100% a red shirt gag for the film in my opinion, the way the scene was constructed - Kirk specifically saying 'put on a red shirt' and the camera immediately going to Chekovs scared expression.

It's a great little bit of humour and a nice subtle easter egg.
 
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