Help us find the missing TOS Trek Zines of the 1960s!

[Neopeius]

As you probably know, Star Trek spawned a huge fanzine industry within just a few months of its first airing. Some friends of mine are putting together a scanned archive of as many as they can find (and they've found A LOT) for research and enjoyment purposes. This also lets them put up summary pages like this one.

Because of the work I do at the Journey, I'm particularly interested in the 'zines from the 60s (at least for the next six years -- then I'll be interested in ones from the 70s!) To that end, I've compiled a list of 60s zines we're still missing: Here it is.

We would be very grateful if you would give the list a gander and see if maybe you can't locate these gems in your stash, or perhaps you know a friend who might have them. Our goal is to preserve a complete record of Trek history!

Can you help?

 

[Kor]

There may be gray areas in terms of copyright when it comes to making these available online. There was a similar discussion in the TrekLit forum recently.

Kor

 

[Neopeius]

There may be gray areas in terms of copyright when it comes to making these available online. There was a similar discussion in the TrekLit forum recently.

Kor

Right. That's why they aren't available online. We're making a repository and scanning for posterity. Researchers are given access according to need. Otherwise, it allows summary works like the Fanlore link I made.

 

[Commishsleer]

As you probably know, Star Trek spawned a huge fanzine industry within just a few months of its first airing. Some friends of mine are putting together a scanned archive of as many as they can find (and they've found A LOT) for research and enjoyment purposes. This also lets them put up summary pages like this one.

Because of the work I do at the Journey, I'm particularly interested in the 'zines from the 60s (at least for the next six years -- then I'll be interested in ones from the 70s!) To that end, I've compiled a list of 60s zines we're still missing: Here it is.

We would be very grateful if you would give the list a gander and see if maybe you can't locate these gems in your stash, or perhaps you know a friend who might have them. Our goal is to preserve a complete record of Trek history!

Can you help?

Have you got everything else?
How do you know?

And sorry I can't help you. Maybe some 80s stuff . I'll await the call.

The only suggestions I have are that there is some library in the US that does hold copies of fanzines. I'm assuming someone's looked there for 60s stuff.
Are you looking for just US stuff ?
Have you got the complete list of 60s fanzines and how do you know its complete?
Are you including the ah more racy stuff?

 

[Neopeius]

Have you got everything else?
How do you know?

And sorry I can't help you. Maybe some 80s stuff . I'll await the call.

The only suggestions I have are that there is some library in the US that does hold copies of fanzines. I'm assuming someone's looked there for 60s stuff.
Are you looking for just US stuff ?
Have you got the complete list of 60s fanzines and how do you know its complete?
Are you including the ah more racy stuff?

Hello. The folks who wrote the Fanlore article seem to know whereof they speak. Of course, there known unknowns and then there are unknown unknowns...

 

[Commishsleer]

Hello. The folks who wrote the Fanlore article seem to know whereof they speak. Of course, there known unknowns and then there are unknown unknowns...

Don't get me wrong.
I'm excited by the project,
It would be great to have a comprehensive list of fanzines and stories so they wouldn't be lost to history.
Back in the day people had to type up each copy didn't they? Had to distribute it themselves. Through clubs etc.

I can remember in the late 70s/early 80s fanzines being available in the local science fiction book shop in Australia. So probably are not on your list . But who know maybe someone's scanned them in and they're available online.

Also if you publicise this project then you can get the word around to people who can help (unfortunately not me). I would if I could.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Back in the day people had to type up each copy didn't they? Had to distribute it themselves. Through clubs etc.

Before the photocopier became commonplace, there was crude but effective machinery that I remember from grade school:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_duplicator

If you didn't have access to one in a school setting, I'm sure there were shops that acted like precursors to Kinkos, where you could go in and pay to have copies run off for you. So you only had to create the master copy on a typewriter.

 

[Neopeius]

Don't get me wrong.
I'm excited by the project,
It would be great to have a comprehensive list of fanzines and stories so they wouldn't be lost to history.
Back in the day people had to type up each copy didn't they? Had to distribute it themselves. Through clubs etc.

I can remember in the late 70s/early 80s fanzines being available in the local science fiction book shop in Australia. So probably are not on your list . But who know maybe someone's scanned them in and they're available online.

Also if you publicise this project then you can get the word around to people who can help (unfortunately not me). I would if I could.

This was the first place I thought to publicise

And the zines may well be on the list! If you search around Fanlore, there are other lists. Those folks are dedicated!

 

[Neopeius]

Before the photocopier became commonplace, there was crude but effective machinery that I remember from grade school:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_duplicator

If you didn't have access to one in a school setting, I'm sure there were shops that acted like precursors to Kinkos, where you could go in and pay to have copies run off for you. So you only had to create the master copy on a typewriter.

I had access to a copy machine very early on, from the late 70s, because my dad ran a law office. Between that and the Selectric typewriters, I was blessed, I tell you!

 

[Commishsleer]

There's a thread about early zines on Trek Lit

 

[Timewalker]

As you probably know, Star Trek spawned a huge fanzine industry within just a few months of its first airing. Some friends of mine are putting together a scanned archive of as many as they can find (and they've found A LOT) for research and enjoyment purposes. This also lets them put up summary pages like this one.

Because of the work I do at the Journey, I'm particularly interested in the 'zines from the 60s (at least for the next six years -- then I'll be interested in ones from the 70s!) To that end, I've compiled a list of 60s zines we're still missing: Here it is.

We would be very grateful if you would give the list a gander and see if maybe you can't locate these gems in your stash, or perhaps you know a friend who might have them. Our goal is to preserve a complete record of Trek history!

Can you help?

Due to vision issues I can't read the page you linked (white pages just turn into a blur for me), so I take it that it lists every 'zine known to have been published? And your goal is to find and scan as many as possible and put them online? Be aware that some are already online and some fanfic authors don't like people archiving their work without permission.

The only '60s 'zine in my collection (that I know of) is Spockanalia. Most of my collection is from the '70s and I have some TNG stuff from the '80s.

If you follow the Valjiir Continuum link in my sig, it will take you to their website (Valjiir is a series that was originally published in In a Different Reality and Alternaties, before branching off independently. The authors have continued to add to it over the decades (as recently as a few years ago, due to my begging and pleading for a new chapter for one of their stories). The stories on the website that were originally published in print have been rewritten somewhat so they differ from the original versions (I have most of the original ones in my collection).

This is a worthwhile project for another reason: While it's easy enough to retype a story online, it's also worthwhile to preserve the artwork. Some of the fanzine artwork is awesome (I never use that word lightly), stupendous, amazing, and many other similar adjectives. It's a shame that so little of it has been preserved online.

Are you including filk books as well?

 

[TrickyDickie]

I would say that ebay is a good resource....not only for purchasing. Some of the sellers are long-time collectors and may even be writers of zines from back in the day and may also still be in touch with others who were.

 

[MAGolding]

I have a question.

James Dixon was the proponent of what he called the "Star Trek Technical Fandom Chronology". This was originally based on Chuck Graham's "Star Trek Time Line" that Dixon says "started it all", though with many additions, revisions and corrections. Graham's time line was originally published in Menagerie V and then in The Starfleet Handbook c. 1975.

http://stng.36el.com/st-tng/trivia/timeline/trek7-notes.html#12

Does anyone know of any other chronologies of Star Trek as old or older?

I do.

Star Trek: An Analysis of a Phenomenon in Science Fiction (1968) has a chronology of Star Trek.

And I wonder if the people involved with the fanzine project have seen any other early Star Trek chronologies in the fanzines.

 

[TrickyDickie]

Bjo Trimble's original Star Trek Concordance began as a zine in March of 1969 and covered the first two seasons. The second volume was the third-season supplement, which came out in 1973. The two zines were merged together into one volume and polished for publication by Ballantine Books in 1976.

A lot of folks are not aware that it began as a zine....

 

[publiusr]

Those are nice.

 

[Redfern]

The two zines were merged together into one volume and polished for publication by Ballantine Books in 1976.

Which also included material about the Filmation animated series.

I found it odd that the episode synopses for each cartoon segment were, on average, longer and more in depth than the live action episodes. It was a bit amusing that the voice cast for many of the one shot characters were listed as "unknown" when it was quite evident many of them were performed by Doohan, Nichols and Barrett. (Reads like a law firm.)

 

[ZapBrannigan]

I found it odd that the episode synopses for each cartoon segment were, on average, longer and more in depth than the live action episodes.

The most egregious example was that the super-important 1-hour episode WNMHGB got half a column of synopsis, while the typical 1/2-hour cartoon episode got nearly four times as much recap. But even so, I loved the hell out of that book. Great book.

 

[Joanna McCoy-Kirk]

I had the Ballantine Books version, and I read and re-read it until it literally fell apart.

 

[Neopeius]

Are you including filk books as well?

I missed this somehow. I'll include anything Trek-related.

 

[Methuselah Flint]

Not sure if this is relevant, but I have a Star Trek music book at home with sheet music transposed for piano, for various cues throughout the series. Fan made. Think its something like 'The Sounds of Star Trek' but would have to check.