Guinan and Picard?
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The writers never seemed to explore that avenue.
In the same way they set up, that Guinan was supposed to possess "powers". Powers which were so great, that even Q upon meeting her, was very wary. Q told Picard, paraphrasing "that he(Picard) had no idea about what the creature(Guinan) is really like." Guinan raised her hands, as if about to deliver energy bolts upon meeting Q. But this too, was never expanded upon
In the same way they set up, that Guinan was supposed to possess "powers". Powers which were so great, that even Q upon meeting her, was very wary. Q told Picard, paraphrasing "that he(Picard) had no idea about what the creature(Guinan) is really like." Guinan raised her hands, as if about to deliver energy bolts upon meeting Q. But this too, was never expanded upon
^Even going as far as calling her an imp.
Well it was something they shared in the past. knowing each other when they hoped through time and then the nexus.
They might have met after generations where Guinan was rescued by Enterprise C... When Kirk was killed and for the type of race she is has a long life span.
So she could have met Picard around Starfleet.
Just my impression.
They might have met after generations where Guinan was rescued by Enterprise C... When Kirk was killed and for the type of race she is has a long life span.
So she could have met Picard around Starfleet.
Just my impression.
The Picard and Guinan relationship is very enigmatic and absolutely fascinating. A number of pieces of canon through the series (Q Who, Yesterday's Enterprise, Best of Both Worlds, Ensign Ro, Time's Arrow) seem to suggest that Picard has a strong personal relationship with Guinan, perhaps the single closest personal relationship he has onboard. In the cave scene in Time's Arrow 2, the tenderness and complete devotion Picard shows Guinan is breathtaking.
I recall reading that before Whoopi Goldberg had asked for a part to be created for her in TNG, the barkeep character had been originally conceived as being the most beautiful woman in the galaxy, a real hottie. I've often wondered if Goldberg had never shown interest in doing Trek and TBTP had gone with the original concept of a seductively enigmatic hottie (like Inara on Firefly) casting a Halle Berry or a Famke Janssen type, would Picard/Guinan have become the dominate shipper pairing in TNG fandom?
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I, too, love the Guinan character and think she's just fascinating. Q's weariness of her (and assuming her species in general) is something I would love to see explored. Remember her age, the dealings with Picard and Guinan both in Time's Arrow and the Nexus (Generations), and his willingness to make ship-threatening decisions on little more than her intuition. She was a really interesting character and I would have loved to see her more developed. I have to wonder where she was during the "First Contact" movie.
They definitely implied early on that there had been some relationship there. Then they dropped it.
I'll admit a little Whoopie goes a long way, but I never noticed De Lancie reacting that way.
I came across this Guinan page. Alot of questions, not many answers. However still good fun
http://canonfodder.ex-astris-scientia.org/index.php?Alien_Races:What_is_Guinan%3F
I once heard Whoopi Goldberg answer a question about this relationship (not at a convention, but when she did her stand-up act). She said that Gene Roddenberry had always intended for Guinan to be Picard's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great (etc) grandmother and that was the big secret. But then, she said that Gene died and that episode never got made, presumably becoming "Time's Arrow" instead. I'm not making this up, this is actually what Whoopi said.
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Picard got himself some El-Aurian lovin'. Guinan not only taught him the physical, but the metaphysical as well. She taught him to not only pleasure with the body but with the mind also. Thats why all the other women that came along afterward were so sprung off this 5 foot 6 inch bald guy who was supposed to be french but kinda talked with an english accent. All joking aside i thought it was great that there were only brief statements concerning their relationship, it kept it mysterious in a way. To me it was enough to know there was a bond and that they were important to each other. I always liked to think he asked her to come on board to take up the role as counselor when deanna couldn't provide the right answers.
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