Female Starfleet Uniforms

[EnsignTOS]

First off, hello again, everybody! You may have known me as "BeamMeUpTOS" from the StarTrek.com message board forums. Whatever happened to those, by the way?

Could a female cadet decide how they choose to wear the uniform? In the pilot "The Cage", we see members of both sexes wearing the same basic uniform (shirt and pants). Are the skimpier, "on duty" uniforms mandatory for women? Or can they choose? As a JROTC cadet in school, I was relieved that we had to wear slacks.

 

[Nerys Myk]

There were a few female crewmembers who wore pants post Cage/WNMHGB.

 

[Albertese]

I like to think that it's a person's choice (to a point) which uniform you wear. I figure that the culture among humans of the mid 2200's make miniskirts very popular among women so it's generally what they wear.

In fact, even when we see Earth-human women out of uniform in TOS, they tend to wear very short skirts. Chalk it up to cultural norms of the time.

--Alex

 

[Ithekro]

In the late 2260s, "women wore less".

The early 2260s and 2270s went back to pants and sometimes a skirt option seen by the late 2280s.

The unisex uniforms of the early 2360s seems to be short lived as uniforms went back to pants for all.

 

[Terran_Empire]

How about those Mirror universe uniforms....yum.

 

[scotpens]

How about those Mirror universe uniforms....yum.

I'm sure there was some strategic military reason why female Imperial Starfleet officers in the MU had to show their belly buttons.

 

[Ithekro]

They are navel uniforms.

 

[EnsignTOS]

They are navel uniforms.

Haha!

 

[EnsignTOS]

There were a few female crewmembers who wore pants post Cage/WNMHGB.

Oh, really? Cool!

 

[EnsignTOS]

I like to think that it's a person's choice (to a point) which uniform you wear. I figure that the culture among humans of the mid 2200's make miniskirts very popular among women so it's generally what they wear.

In fact, even when we see Earth-human women out of uniform in TOS, they tend to wear very short skirts. Chalk it up to cultural norms of the time.

--Alex

Oh, I see. That makes plenty of sense. Thanks for clarifying!

 

[plynch]

There were a few female crewmembers who wore pants post Cage/WNMHGB.

Oh, really? Cool!

Any screencaps?

2. Y'know, those skirts are really silly. As a kid in the 70s I had no idea those were a fad of the '60s, so I never thought about them. But suppose we took a specific, short-lived fad of another period and projected that into a future time as being common. Say skinny jeans and hipster glasses, and all the men of the exploration vessel Galaxar are wearing them. Weird.

Plus I'm not a "leg man" so they (the minskirts, not the jeans) don't really do anything for me.

 

[Nerys Myk]

There were a few female crewmembers who wore pants post Cage/WNMHGB.

Oh, really? Cool!

Any screencaps?

2. Y'know, those skirts are really silly. As a kid in the 70s I had no idea those were a fad of the '60s, so I never thought about them. But suppose we took a specific, short-lived fad of another period and projected that into a future time as being common. Say skinny jeans and hipster glasses, and all the men of the exploration vessel Galaxar are wearing them. Weird.

Plus I'm not a "leg man" so they (the minskirts, not the jeans) don't really do anything for me.

This is the most prominent one The others were on background characters,IIRC

 

[Avro Arrow]

Board member GSchnitzer posted screencaps a few years back, so I'll just point you to that post. Regular series screencaps start at number 10.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=4386245&postcount=36

 

[Melakon]

This is the most prominent one The others were on background characters,IIRC

That's from "Charlie X" I think. Right before he tuns a girl into an old lady. I'm guessing she's in pants because they didn't want to put the older woman she turned into in the miniskirt costume.

The women's pants were so tight, Sally Kellerman was uncomfortable wearing them because they were... revealing. Sometimes she can be seen holding her hands or an object in front of her during "Where No Man has Gone Before".

 

[LMFAOschwarz]

The women's pants were so tight, Sally Kellerman was uncomfortable wearing them because they were... revealing. Sometimes she can be seen holding her hands or an object in front of her during "Where No Man has Gone Before".

That's interesting. Thinking back on it, I don't recall the pants as looking that tight. I may have to re-watch...for purposes of research.

 

[scotpens]

Y'know, those skirts are really silly. As a kid in the 70s I had no idea those were a fad of the '60s, so I never thought about them. But suppose we took a specific, short-lived fad of another period and projected that into a future time as being common.

You mean like bad folk-rock music?

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pNQYHvhnms[/yt]

Plus I'm not a "leg man" so they (the minskirts, not the jeans) don't really do anything for me.

I am a leg man, and I can say with authority that while the miniskirts were certainly silly, all the Trek TOS women had good legs!

 

[Melakon]

I've never noticed anything overt about them, but then again they're black, and I have dvds and an old set. It might be visible in blu-ray and a good late model tv.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

I am a leg man, and I can say with authority that while the miniskirts were certainly silly, all the Trek TOS women had good legs!

Seconded.

Jan Shutan said in an interview that she was embarrassed to be wearing such a short skirt because she thought her legs were too chubby for it. I think she was very hot.

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x18hd/thelightsofzetarhd1213.jpg

 

[EnsignTOS]

Board member GSchnitzer posted screencaps a few years back, so I'll just point you to that post. Regular series screencaps start at number 10.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=4386245&postcount=36

Wow! Thank you so much for that visual evidence! Thanks, everyone. Now it's been confirmed that I haven't been wearing my Halloween costumes wrong, after all.

 

[erastus25]

The women's pants were so tight, Sally Kellerman was uncomfortable wearing them because they were... revealing. Sometimes she can be seen holding her hands or an object in front of her during "Where No Man has Gone Before".

That's interesting. Thinking back on it, I don't recall the pants as looking that tight. I may have to re-watch...for purposes of research.

They don't look that tight in most of the screencaps on Trekcore.
Example:
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x03hd/wherenomanhasgonebeforehd072.jpg

I wonder if Ms. Kellerman imagined people would be expecting her pants this closely 50 years later...

I am a leg man, and I can say with authority that while the miniskirts were certainly silly, all the Trek TOS women had good legs!

Seconded.

Jan Shutan said in an interview that she was embarrassed to be wearing such a short skirt because she thought her legs were too chubby for it. I think she was very hot.

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x18hd/thelightsofzetarhd1213.jpg

She thougth she was too chubby?! No way. She looked great.