Dauwd vs Organian

[Vandervecken]

Who wins? Both are capable of some pretty extraordinary, but not quite Q-level, exercises of power across large distances. The Organians immobilized/rendered inert any Klingon and Starfleet ships near any kind of conflict wherever they were. A single Douwd destroyed an entire race with a thought, wherever they were.

Frankly I can't even guess on this one, but it'd be a helluva fight, wouldn't it?

 

[Jedi_Master]

The Douwd's powers were not really fleshed out properly in TNG, so it would be hard to really figure out what they were capable of without more information.

 

[T'Girl]

A single Douwd destroyed an entire race with a thought

But "Kevin" did that during a moment of extreme rage, I wonder if that would be possible for him normally?

 

[USS Triumphant]

But what kind of fight? No holds barred kill'em all? Rugby tournament? Pistols at 20 paces?

Assuming a no rules, take no prisoners fight, I think Kevin would win, if not immediately, then eventually - the Organians seemed disinclined to even allow lesser races to fight, so the most I see them doing to Kevin would be to imprison him. And that would end eventually.

 

[QCzar]

Not to detract from the smackdown, but this is one of the things that's always intrigued me about the Trek-verse. How exactly do races like the Organians, Nagilum, "God", the Q, the Prophets/Pah'Wriaths, the Nacene, the Dauwd and others interact with each other? As in unseen by us lower, limited beings.

I'm not sure it could (or should) ever be visualized (I'm one of those that consider Voyager's glimpse into the Q Continuum to be deeply underwhelming), but it's always something I ponder when questions like these come up.

You see, everything about the way that humanoids interact is in some way connected to our fundamental nature. We have needs that bind us to the material world in a way that a non-corporeal lifeform wouldn't. We have reactions based on generations of biological evolution that, while possible to suppress or refine, cannot be completely overcome.

Not saying that they can't have a smack down, but what in creation would it be? Are there some kind of rules or norms in their interactions? What would or could motivate them to even fight in the first place?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Perhaps the Douwd *are* Q. They just have different names for themselves.

 

[Captain Rob]

Considering how powerful they all seem to be. The first one to pull the trigger. Wins.

 

[Vandervecken]

Perhaps the Douwd *are* Q. They just have different names for themselves.

I don't think so. Kevin Uxbridge could have really brought back Rishon, then, instead of some sort of mental construct. He could have brought back the Hoosnok and reversed his "crime." As far as I know, only the Q among the ultrapowerful beings we've seen can actually reverse death whenever they want to.

People are making great points here. If Kevin Uxbridge is representative of his kind, then BOTH of these species are extreme pacifists. Would they ever fight, anyway?

And as QCzar points out, these beings don't have 1) glands to affect their thinking/reactions, and 2) how the heck would their powers/natures interacts? I think they might not be able to throw supernovae at each other like the Q, but really I can't even guess.

Here's a thought that just occurred; has anyone here read The City and The Stars (read it so, so, so many years ago). Their "battle" might be similar to what Alvin thought might take place between Vanamonde and The Mad Mind amid "the corpses of the stars," far in the future. But other than that brief, forward-looking statement, Clarke never tells us how this would look, so maybe this is no help anyway.

 

[Armored Saint]

Perhaps the Douwd *are* Q. They just have different names for themselves.

Nah, the Q seems to be free traveller allowed to interfere, but monitored by the Continuum. Kevin was a free and lonely traveller against interference who had to punish himself. He also had trouble to manage the balance between his emotions and his powers. The Q don't seem to have this problem, despite they can be immature and irresponsible.

About the Douwd vs the Organians, it's hard to say because the Organians lives in group, Kevin was a loner.

 

[UUS Contrarian]

A single Douwd destroyed an entire race with a thought

But "Kevin" did that during a moment of extreme rage, I wonder if that would be possible for him normally?

He needs a better name.