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Dallas (original series) questions

Mr. Laser Beam

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Two things:

- The 'dream theory' wasn't the only idea they had for explaining Bobby's return, was it? I remember at least one other explanation: that it was a bad guy having plastic surgery to pose as Bobby. I also remember seeing a screengrab to this effect. Was this ever actually considered for use on the show, or was it just a false flag intended to throw fans off the trail, so to speak?

- Since Knots Landing depends on Bobby's death, isn't the entirety of that show now a dream?
 
- Since Knots Landing depends on Bobby's death, isn't the entirety of that show now a dream?

I'm not sure what that means, Knots Landing spun off very early, the first or second season of Dallas IIRC, so Bobby's death wouldn't have impacted it for quote a while. After he came back on Dallas, I believe its "timeline diverged" and he stayed dead on KL. I never watched either by that time but I read that somewhere.

No idea on the first question.
 
I doubt pre internet there was really much need for a "false flag" to throw fans off. I don't remember any stories either way, but then again I wasn't that much of a fan by that point.
 
I'm not sure what that means, Knots Landing spun off very early, the first or second season of Dallas IIRC, so Bobby's death wouldn't have impacted it for quote a while. After he came back on Dallas, I believe its "timeline diverged" and he stayed dead on KL. I never watched either by that time but I read that somewhere.

No idea on the first question.

One of Gary & Valene's twins was named after Bobby because of his "death" during S7 of KL.
 
Two things:

- The 'dream theory' wasn't the only idea they had for explaining Bobby's return, was it? I remember at least one other explanation: that it was a bad guy having plastic surgery to pose as Bobby. I also remember seeing a screengrab to this effect. Was this ever actually considered for use on the show, or was it just a false flag intended to throw fans off the trail, so to speak?
According to the fan site UltimateDallas.com, there were three different endings made: 1) Patrick Duffy in the shower; 2) A bad guy who's had plastic surgery to pose like Bobby shows up; 3) J.R. goes to see Bobby in the hospital where he's secretly been recuperating for the past year. I'm pretty sure the third ending got snapped up by the National Enquirer, there's a grainy photo of Duffy in a hospital bed and Hagman standing next to him. I can't remember if I saw it on UltimateDallas or in Barbara Curran's book about the series. It's possible they shot the latter two endings just to throw off the press. Yeah, there was barely an internet to speak of back in 1986, but between tabloids and fanzines, there were still big ways to spoil the surprise cliffhanger.

- Since Knots Landing depends on Bobby's death, isn't the entirety of that show now a dream?
Apparently they just never bothered addressing it. The crossover appearances also stopped after Bobby's return. Shackleford and Van Ark did their scene in the Dallas finale (which was just possible alternate history, anyway) and the next crossover wasn't until the second season of TNT's Dallas.
 
Bobby remained dead on Knots Landing, since that show's producers didn't want the hassle of undoing one of their own seasons, just to mesh up with Dallas.

I hated the "it was all Pam's dream" stunt. That year when Patrick Duffy was gone was one of the most fun seasons Dallas ever had, what with JR, Callie and Jack Ewing getting involved with international syndicates and criminals, Pam's trip to hunt for emeralds in South America, Ray and Donna's work with Down Syndrome children, Jamie and Cliff's relationship, and Jenna's meltdown (never could stand Jenna, as Priscilla Presley couldn't act if her life depended on it).

I don't recall what Sue Ellen was doing that season; was that the one when she made the movie about her and JR? I'm also trying to remember which season Carter MacKay and his family turned up.

They should have gone with the long-lost twin that Miss Ellie didn't realize she'd had, or even an identical evil cousin scenario. If those things worked on One Life to Live and General Hospital, they'd have worked on Dallas.
 
This was the season where Sue Ellen ends up drinking with the winos, and Miss Ellie and Clayton find her in the detox ward. Some truly excellent actng by Linda Gray during that arc.

Sue Ellen makes the movie about her and J.R. during Season 12, Gray's final season with the show. That was also the first season with Carter McKay and family, though George Kennedy wouldn't be in the opening credits until the following season.
 
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IIRC, the dream season ended with Sue Ellen and Jamie both being killed by bombs (aimed at JR and Jack), something that was presumably scripted in the knowledge that the season was already being nixed.
 
IIRC, the dream season ended with Sue Ellen and Jamie both being killed by bombs (aimed at JR and Jack), something that was presumably scripted in the knowledge that the season was already being nixed.
They were going to drop Jamie anyway, since they killed her offscreen in a hiking accident.

@cardinal biggles: Thanks for the reminder.

Fun Fact (or not, as may apply, since the actress was terrible no matter what): The actress who played the McKay daughter also played Tasha Yar's sister in TNG. In both series, all she had going for herself were weird hair, pouty lips, and absolutely no talent at all.
 
It's possible they shot the latter two endings just to throw off the press.
Very likely: they shot the 'reveal' inserts for Who Shot JR? with every cast member (even Hagman!), and the body-in-the-pool cliffhanger was shot three times (with Gray and Principal also playing dead).
 
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Very likely: they shot the 'reveal' inserts fror Who Shot JR? with every cast member (even Hagman!), and the body-in-the-pool clifhanger was shot three times (with Gray and Principal also playing dead).
I had to laugh at the expression on Hagman's face in that scene, shaking his head at the absurdity of shooting himself from across the room.

I should have wagered on that cliffhanger. I had Kristen pegged as the shooter immediately.
 
Very likely: they shot the 'reveal' inserts for Who Shot JR? with every cast member (even Hagman!)...
Most of those were for shits and giggles:

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(the shooters start at the 4-minute mark)
 
The ending of the 1985-1986 and the final scenes of the season finale, "Blast From The Past" was such a tightly guarded secret, what was actually shot the spring day Victoria Principal shot her scene was Pam waking up the day after marrying Mark Graison (John Beck) and finding him dead in the shower. Had the dream season not been used as a plot device to resurrect Bobby Ewing, cousin Jamie (Jennilee Harrison) would have been killed in the car explosion meant for her brother Jack and Sue Ellen would have been blinded after being caught in the explosion at Ewing Oil set by Angelica Nero for J.R.

Steve Forrest appears in a few episodes toward the end of the dream season as well in what is very blatantly setup for the "Is he Jock Ewing?" storyline but it was dropped for obvious reasons until the dream season reveal had blown over. Forrest reappears later in Season 10 as Wes Parmalee for the same storyline, posing as the resuscitated Jock, and was ultimately revealed to be a fraud.

The alternate explanations for Bobby's resurrection as described in this thread and corroborated on UltimateDallas are accurate - the plastic surgery, the dream, and the "he didn't really die, he was just recuperating elsewhere."

Barbara Curran's excellent retrospective book on the show, DALLAS: The Complete Story of the World's Favorite Primte-Time Soap also details that Leonard Katzman, showrunner of the series and only a minimal outside/non-DALLAS production crew were involved with shooting the Bobby-in-the-shower reveal, on a separate soundstage months later and shot under the guise of Patrick Duffy doing a shower soap commercial:

PATRICK DUFFY:
"We did an Irish Spring commercial. We took all day and had cases of Irish Spring. And I turned around in that shower a hundred times, all lathered up, turned around and go, 'Good morning. And you can have a good morning too, if you wake up like the Duffys.' And we did this commercial over and over and over again so that they would think it was really that. Katzman "cut out just that one little part [where Bobby says "Good morning"] and it was taken to New York by briefcase and put into the master just before airtime."
--DALLAS: The Complete Story of the World's Favorite Primte-Time Soap, pp. 219


The scene was not included in any of the distributed drafts of the script. The cast was informed Duffy was returning the day the scene was shot but it was not elaborated on nor any explanation of how. Even Victoria Principal didn't know how it was going to happen until much later because if you watch the scene, it's very clear that Duffy's one shot was done completely separately:

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At some point, Steve Kanaly (Ray Krebbs) gave an interview offering that the explanation asks DALLAS fans to "accept a lot."

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Until the dream season split, KNOTS LANDING and DALLAS essentially maintained their continuity with each other, but after Bobby was killed in the dream season, Gary had a relapse of his alcoholism and later fathered twins with Valene, one of whom they named after Bobby. The producers at KNOTS were so happy with the storyline that season that after Bobby was resurrected, it was not mentioned again on KNOTS. Gary and Valene return once more for the final episode when Joel Grey takes J.R. on his little "It's A Wonderful Life" trip, and again in the season two of the 2012 revival after Larry Hagman passed away. The entirety of the show though is not a dream; the first several years of the show feature multiple crossovers, including J.R. visiting the cul-de-sac to cause trouble for the residents of Seaview Circle, sometimes in cahoots with Abby and other times just for shits and giggles on his own.

KNOTS was actually conceived first but the network wasn't interested; David Jacobs then created DALLAS, which was such a hit, CBS wanted another show, and Jacobs had KNOTS ready to go and it (KNOTS) went on to a successful 14 season run on the network.
 
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Fun Fact (or not, as may apply, since the actress was terrible no matter what): The actress who played the McKay daughter also played Tasha Yar's sister in TNG. In both series, all she had going for herself were weird hair, pouty lips, and absolutely no talent at all.

Beth Toussaint is married to Jack Coleman, who was the second Steven Carrington on DYNASTY. True story: Toussaint's character appeared on the DALLAS revival during its third and final season, this time played by Melinda Clarke. Had the show been renewed, her character, Tracy, would have returned as well.
 
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