This could explain the Q's specific interest in humanity. Of the five races who's DNA was gathered (Cardies, Klingons, Roms/Vulcans and Humans. Humanity appears to be the highest evolved of these species (not trying to bait this is solely my opinion) The message said they once appeared as you ie humanoid and than evolved and left the galaxy and signs of their civilization long ago. 4.5 billion years could be enough time to evolve into the Q. Thoughts?
Could the Progenitors be the Q?
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First off, there's no such thing as "highest evolved." Evolution isn't some magic ladder, it's merely a process of adaptation to the survival needs of a given environment. A species that's "highly evolved" to fit the needs of their particular environment would be a major evolutionary disadvantage if that environment changed substantially, and would need to evolve in a different direction or go extinct.
Second, it's utterly bizarre in the context of Star Trek to perceive humans as having any sort of evolutionary advantage over other humanoids. Humans are one of the weakest species in the Trek galaxy. A ton of other species are stronger than we are -- Vulcans, Klingons, Andorians, Jem'Hadar, Hirogen, even Kelpiens. A lot of other species have superior vision, hearing, and other senses, or possess senses humans lack such as telepathy, or have abilities humans lack such as telekinesis or shapeshifting. A lot of species are more intelligent, notably Vulcans.
It could be, considering that the Q seem to be one of the most ancient races in the galaxy. However, they're too ancient. In "The Q and the Gray," the Female Q said that Janeway was five billion years younger than she was. I suppose she could've been exaggerating, but if she was speaking accurately, then the Q already existed before the Progenitors.
Yes, but humans are the most adaptable and have no level limits.
Oh wait, this isn't Dungeons & Dragons. Never mind
Anyway, seeing as how the Q can do anything, yeah sure they could be the progenitors. Why not?
To be fair, don't most of the other species give up and die in mildly air conditioned rooms?
It's definitely a Klingon weakness in VOY (y'know... that episode where they lost control of the ship? No, not that one. Or that one. The other one.)
But then doesn't ENT have an ice planet prison in one episode?
I dunno, seems like there might be something there.
I really wasn’t trying to say that humans were physically superior to other races merely and this is referenced by Nog in DS9 in the episode the little green men. He’s reading about Earths history and their rate of technological development. Believe he said humans were able to accomplish in 5,000 years what it took the Ferengi at least twice as long to do, and the Ferengi had to purchase warp tech he was then cut off by Quark. I also, was suggesting that if in fact the Progenitors are the Q that it seems plausible for a humanoid form to evolve to a higher state of being. And Q’s interest in particular to humanity may be hinting at something here. I wish we had more episodes. I’m not sure based of ST Enterprise what happens to humans in the 27th century the time traveler says he’s a little human and a little something else which to me suggested evolution of some type. And Picards always going on and on about how humans have evolved past petty crimes, violence, internal wars, poverty, hunger etc its the kicking off point for TNG in the first ep. I wasn’t suggesting there’s a highest evolved but from what I’ve seen in the Star Trek Universe it would appear to me that the Q are amongst the furtherest “developed.” Species.
What's that got to do with biological evolution? That's a total non sequitur. Anyway, the rate at which a society's technology advances depends on many factors. China had the makings of an Industrial Revolution 700 years before England did, but it didn't need one, because it was already a prosperous and stable society with all the resources it needed, and so it didn't have the same needs that compelled England to industrialize (such as a need for advanced transportation methods to improve access to territory and resources it lacked, and a need to manufacture its own goods to compete with the wealth of China). And different societies can be equally advanced in different ways. For instance, Native Americans never invented wheeled vehicles and weren't as good with metallurgy as Europeans, but they had vastly superior agricultural science (something like 2/3 of the world's modern food crops were domesticated or bred into existence by Native Americans) and very sophisticated construction techniques.
Oh, that's been an established fact of the Trek universe since TOS. The Thasians and Organians were both incorporeal species that had evolved from humanoid ancestors. There were also "John Doe"'s people in TNG: "Transfigurations."
No, that was interbreeding. Phlox's scan of the dead time traveler in "Future Tense" showed that he had DNA from multiple known and unknown species. It stands to reason that if the 23rd and 24th centuries have biracial individuals like Spock, Troi, K'Ehleyr, and Torres, then eventually you'd get biracial people interbreeding with each other and producing even more elaborate multispecies mixes.
That's a figurative use of the word "evolve," or rather, in reference to the evolution of our cultural values rather than our genetics.
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