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Atlantis in the Mainstream Marvel Universe

EJA

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I've been reading up on the history of Atlantis as depicted in Marvel Comics recently, drawn from such diverse sources as their Conan the Barbarian and Sub-mariner comics, and it seems as though some of it doesn't entirely gel very well. For example, a map on the Marvel Wikia website depicts Atlantis prior to its destruction as being a fairly large continent covering a wide area of the Atlantic Ocean with its boundries near to those of Europe and the Americas. But the stories of King Kull and Conan, which are supposed to be in continuity with Marvel, always depicted Atlantis as a rather small continent surrounded by other smaller islands, such as the Pictish Isles, and Antillia from L. Sprague de Camp and Lin Carter's novel Conan of the Isles. Frankly, it doesn't look as though there'd be much room left with an Atlantis that large.

Robert E. Howard's other character Solomon Kane has also been incorporated by Marvel, and one of Howard's stories adapted by them had Kane discover the Atlantean colony of Negari built in West Africa supposedly prior to the Great Cataclysm that destroyed that land......but in his Hyborian Age essay West Africa didn't exist in the Pre-Cataclysmic and Hyborian Ages. Marvel even published a sequel to this story where Kane travelled back in time and met Conan who was in the city!!

The depiction of the civilization on the Atlantean mainland also differs. In Howard's Kull stories Atlantis was an uncivilized backwater populated by primitive tribes, whereas the Carter/de Camp tales and Marvel indicate that it was more advanced when it fell. However, some have reconciled this by saying that in the centuries between the time of Kull and the Great Cataclysm Atlantean culture picked up and developed advanced technologies, but this doesn't explain why Negari and the Atlantean colony on Europe shown in a Man-Thing story looked so primitive.

Stories written in the 1970s had Atlantis ruled by a King Kamuu just before the Cataclysm. But in the third volume of the Man-Thing comic in the 1990s, a story was written showing Atlantis as having been ruled by Atlas, the son of Poseidon and Cleito and the grandson of Evenor, as per the original Greek myth, but this doesn't gel with either Howard's or Marvel's interpretation of things.

Now I'm a very big fan of Marvel's Conan stories, so I'd hate to have to disregard them, so what to do? Thoughts, opinions?
 
There's also the Isle of the Serpent Crown from Conan the Buccaneer and the Isle of the Black Ones from The Pool of the Black One in the general Atlantean area. A Namor comic also claimed that the isle of Avalon in King Arthur's time was a fragment of Atlantis.
 
One thing that comes to mind : Claims that Atlantis was vastly huge seem to come from sources of Atlanteans of Namor's stripe, which means bragging at some point.
 
I thought Conan tales weren't part of the MU616 proper? Are we sure they are meant to be one and the same?

Edit: So I make my way over to the Marvel Comics boards and find a thread on this there.
 
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I don't think Conan is part of the Marvel universe anymore since I don't even think they have the rights to reprint Conan for the Essentials tpb line. Kind of like how at one time Transformers was part of the Marvel universe but not anymore.
 
As I understand it, the OFFICIAL line at Marvel is that the Conan stories published by Marvel are still part of the overall continuity, but they just can't be referred to by name anymore (This applies to the character Shang-Chi, who originated as the son of Sax Rohmer's pulp villain Fu Manchu; even though Marvel no longer have the rights to mention Fu Manchu's name, it's pretty much a given that he's still Shang's father). And past stories set in the modern era have included some elements of Howard's fiction, such as the character Kulan Gath who first appeared in Marvel's Conan the Barbarian and who returned to menace the X-Men and the Avengers, as well as references to the evil snake-god Set and the Valusian serpent people. Spider-Man even met King Kull and Red Sonja in issues of Marvel Team-Up in the 70s. Two stories in the What If... series had Conan flung through time into the modern era to interact with current Marvel characters, and although intended to occur in alternate realities to the mainline 616 version, the intent was to solidify Conan's place in the distant past of the Marvelverse.
 
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