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Ant-Man: Grade, Review, Discuss, Sequels?...SPOILERS likely

How do you grade Ant-Man?

  • A

    Votes: 56 61.5%
  • B

    Votes: 31 34.1%
  • C

    Votes: 4 4.4%
  • D

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

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Opening July 17, 2015
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Starring:(imdb)
Paul Rudd as Scott Lang/Ant-Man
Michael Douglas as Dr. Hank Pym
Evangeline Lily as Hope VanDyne
Corey Stoll as Darren Cross/Yellowjacket
Michael Pena as Luis
Bobby Canavale as Paxton
Judy Greer as Maggie Lang
Abby Fortson as Cassie Lang

Forced out of his own company by former protégé Darren Cross, Dr. Hank Pym (Michael Douglas) recruits the talents of Scott Lang (Paul Rudd), a master thief just released from prison. Lang becomes Ant-Man, trained by Pym and armed with a suit that allows him to shrink in size, possess superhuman strength and control an army of ants. The miniature hero must use his new skills to prevent Cross, also known as Yellowjacket, from perfecting the same technology and using it as a weapon for evil.

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RottenTomatoes: 78% as of 7/15
 
Just got back from seeing it. I feel that it might be the best Marvel film yet. Solid script, solid performances from Rudd, Douglas and Lily. The only let down is the films villain, Darren Cross (aka yellowjacket) who i felt was a pretty standard megalomaniac.
 
This is what Avengers: AOU should've been like! Fun, exciting, spectacular. It is another winner for Marvel Studios and as good as last year's offerings. The cast was excellent and the film is genuinely funny with great action scenes.

One thing I enjoyed about it are the MCU references which don't feel shoehorned in like in Avengers: AOU and if you listen carefully you'll hear a quick reference to a certain character that should delight fans.
 
Disney is reporting that Preview shows, 8pm-midnight(apx), brought in $6.4m for Ant-Man Thursday night.

For comparison GotG did $11.2m
 
I enjoyed it. Very fun. Lots of good moments.

One comment on a classic Marvel superhero that I think is being referenced above I really got a kick out of.

How 'bout that end-end stinger.
 
^ I see what you did there.

Stay through the credits. There's a mid-credit scene and then another one at the very end.

I know very little about Ant-Man and the Wasp, so I saw the movie thinking that they brought in Paul Rudd as a new guy and skipped over Hank Pym and Janet because they weren't interesting enough. It was the Iron Man treatment all over again with Marvel trying to spice things up to make a dry character more entertaining. I'd say they succeeded because I enjoyed the film and I was especially happy to see Rudd try something new while still being Paul Rudd. And reading up on his character, I see that there is indeed a second Ant-Man and they simply adapted him to film with very little change.

I'll give this an A for entertaining.

Loved the visuals with shrunken men interacting with toys as if they were life-sized.

Nice to see Michael Douglas make a bit of a comeback.

Also nice to see Evangeline Lilly again. She always says in interviews that she's not interested in movies or being a star, yet big career opportunities seem to follow her around when so many other aspiring actors find this sort of breakthrough elusive. She's definitely got that special something.

I just read that Scott's daughter Cassie will grow up to become an avenger. Learning.
 
I just read that Scott's daughter Cassie will grow up to become an avenger. Learning.

They have actually pretty much reversed all of the YA stuff (and even de-aged her artwise) to coincide with the Antman movie. Of course ironically Allan Heinberg the writer of Young Avengers actually made her older in the first place just to make her a superhero. So it all cancels out in the end.

Also they brought back Darren Cross too.
 
I rank it with the original Iron Man, but I rank Guardians, Winter Soldier, and Avengers just ahead of it. But, it was a great move to have it after AoU since it benefited from references, as well as showing that Marvel still has it (I didn't hate AoU, but it was a lot weaker than the previous 3 Marvel movies).

What classic MU character are you guys talking about? Apparently, I did blink and miss it.

One thing that I liked is it shows that there is more going on than lead-ins to Infinity War. I also liked the indications that super-powered heroes were around prior to Iron Man. I would love a Nick Fury/Hank Pym/Sharon Carter/Anthony Pierce/Howard Stark 70's/80's S.H.I.E.L.D. movie.
 
I rank it with the original Iron Man, but I rank Guardians, Winter Soldier, and Avengers just ahead of it. But, it was a great move to have it after AoU since it benefited from references, as well as showing that Marvel still has it (I didn't hate AoU, but it was a lot weaker than the previous 3 Marvel movies).

What classic MU character are you guys talking about? Apparently, I did blink and miss it.

One thing that I liked is it shows that there is more going on than lead-ins to Infinity War. I also liked the indications that super-powered heroes were around prior to Iron Man. I would love a Nick Fury/Hank Pym/Sharon Carter/Anthony Pierce/Howard Stark 70's/80's S.H.I.E.L.D. movie.

Did you mean Alexander Pierce and Peggy Carter?

Saw the movie last night and really liked it. Loved the smaller scope of the whole thing. Much, much more satisfying than Age of Ultron. Smaller is bigger sometimes, story wise I mean. Humor was really good too, I even actually laughed out loud at one scene(I typically smirk and almost never laugh out loud even while watching comedies I love). Can't wait until May 6, 2016
 
^
Oops, you're right, I did. I did mean Alexander and Peggy.

It was small, but it did a great job of showing the larger world, as well. Hank has ties to SHIELD, they referenced AoU, name-dropped Stark a few times, etc. As I said in my first post, it also shows there is more to the Marvel Cinematic Universe than lead ins to Infinity War.
 
I was going to go tonight, but then I saw that it's going to be in the 90s tomorrow, and decided that tomorrow would be better.
 
I enjoyed it. Lots of good little MCU tie-ins--including a decent-sized part for the Falcon--while keeping the focus on Scott, Pym, and Ja...er, Hope. And a nice bit of world-building that Ant-Man and the Wasp were out there working with SHIELD decades ago.

What classic MU character are you guys talking about? Apparently, I did blink and miss it.

...a guy who could walk on walls.

The biggest kick for me was the Garrett Morris cameo--Somebody actually thought to include the original live-action Ant-Man! :techman:

It'll be interesting to see how this does. The crowd I was with seemed to be enjoying it a lot.
 
I just got back it and I really enjoyed it. It was a pleasant surprise and a funny movie as well. Paul Rudd was really good and Michael Douglas was terrific.

I would agree with the assessment. It's not in the top tier of Avengers, Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy but I would put it just under it with the original Iron Man. Which is still pretty damn good.
 
I don't think I'd rate this among the top MCU films, but it's very entertaining, and it does an impressive job of clearing the hurdle of justifying its own existence and making the Pym technology seem both relevant and significant (which it is, when you think about it, but it's common to write off shrinking technology).

If there was one point I thought was kind of muddled, it was Scott's starting point. Given all the talk about "redemption", I don't get why they made his initial crime a Robin Hood-type thing where he was just trying to help people. Lang in the comics just became a thief because he wasn't making enough money to support his family, which is also a somewhat sympathetic motivation, but ultimately a self-centered one. It's especially odd given that they have him plot to steal for profit later anyway. That said, I liked the character overall, and Paul Rudd is surprisingly plausible as an action hero (albeit one with a comedic bent).

Michael Douglas was terrific as Hank (and, incidentally, the CGI de-aging they did on him in the opening scene was amazing).

Evangeline Lilly's Hope was an unexpected strong point of the story. There's been a ton of controversy around the way Janet was going to be handled (or not) in this adaptation -- which also gets unexpectedly addressed -- but Hope is actually a really well-realized character. Indeed, of all the MCU female leads, I'd say she has easily the most backstory and the character arc most separate from the male lead (until Peggy got her own show, but that's not in the movies); her real story is with her dad and the legacy of her mother. I know some people have called it a token romance, but the hookup between her and Scott at the end is underplayed to the point where it comes across very casually and not like a big deal (romance plots don't need to be at the center of every story).

Michael Pena's unexpectedly-sophisticated and enthusiastic thief was another highlight. As a Young Avengers fan, I was also pleased with little Cassie, too (there are some nice character touches, like her being thrilled with the ugly doll and adopting the giant ant as a pet at the end).

They did a really good job of making the action and aesthetic stand out from other films in the universe, and not just because of the size-changing; Pena's rapid-fire monologues complete with a lot of swipe-cuts really stand out.
 
What classic MU character are you guys talking about? Apparently, I did blink and miss it.

...a guy who could walk on walls.

Thanks. I did catch that, though for some reason I was thinking I missed something more subtle.


They also mentioned swinging and/or jumping as things he could do.
 
Saw it last night.

The basic plot was pretty forgettable stuff but that's understandable for an origin film (the villain might as well have had the word "villain" tattooed on his forehead). I really enjoyed the "Honey, I shrunk the kids" moments and was kinda hoping for more especially as the special effects wee really well done.

Rudd is extremely likeable (and doesn't appear to ever age) and the rest of the cast we're very good. As we all know, the Marvel universe contains something called "humour" which has always been a selling point for the franchise but this film was probably the funniest of all the Marvel films I've seen so far.

The big Thomas the tank engine was just sublime (if only they'd got Ringo Starr to do the voice).

A good start for the character.
 
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