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Adam (The Way To Eden) Charles Napier

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Iluvlacquer

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"In a 2009 interview with The A.V. Club, Charles Napier recalled auditioning for the part of Adam, which was his first guest starring role. He won the part by jumping onto a table and singing "The House of the Rising Sun" in front of others trying for the part.[4]"

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_to_Eden

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Again, this belongs in TOS, and a question or topic should be more explicit in order to lead to a good discussion.

Just saying "Here's a wiki link on something that happened" is not usually enough to start a thread.

Thanks
 
Iluvlacquer said:
Hey mr moderater-I give up
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Sorry he closed your Leary/Sevrin thread early. I was actually looking for information about a potential Severinsen link in the naming (it's probably a coincidence).

Here's Wikipedia's source for the work that lists Leary as inspiration for Sevrin. It's just one author's opinion. I can't find anything definitive, but many seem to share that opinion. I see lots of parallels to Manson, but the timeline of course doesn't allow it for Manson to be a known entity to Heinemann or Fontana.

I'd be interested if any expert knows of a solid Leary link. Timothy Leary was actually my namesake, even though I personally have no affection for the guy.
 
Iluvlacquer said:
Hey mr moderater-I give up
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Take it from a longtime member here, the simplest thing to do is find the appropriate forum—in this case, since all your posts concern a specific TOS episode, the Original Series forum—and start a thread with an umbrella topic like a “The Way to Eden” Ponderables and mention Severin, the music, and Napier, and why you find this episode or these bits of info interesting. That’s how you start a discussion here. (I’m not saying you should start another thread on “Eden.” Let the mods advise you on that.)

Also, it seems like a fair number of newbies here are under the impression that they have to start threads to increase their post count, when all they really have to do is reply to existing threads.
 
Maurice said:
Take it from a longtime member here, the simplest thing to do is find the appropriate forum—in this case, since all your posts concern a specific TOS episode, the Original Series forum—and start a thread with an umbrella topic like a “The Way to Eden” Ponderables and mention Severin, the music, and Napier, and why you find this episode or these bits of info interesting. That’s how you start a discussion here. (I’m not saying you should start another thread on “Eden.” Let the mods advise you on that.)

Also, it seems like a fair number of newbies here are under the impression that they have to start threads to increase their post count, when all they really have to do is reply to existing threads.
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Thx
 
Tim Allen Thomason said:
Sorry he closed your Leary/Sevrin thread early. I was actually looking for information about a potential Severinsen link in the naming (it's probably a coincidence).

Here's Wikipedia's source for the work that lists Leary as inspiration for Sevrin. It's just one author's opinion. I can't find anything definitive, but many seem to share that opinion. I see lots of parallels to Manson, but the timeline of course doesn't allow it for Manson to be a known entity to Heinemann or Fontana.

I'd be interested if any expert knows of a solid Leary link. Timothy Leary was actually my namesake, even though I personally have no affection for the guy.
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The topic is now posted in General Observations thread (as I suggested).

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/general-trek-questions-and-observations.284733/page-92#post-13982995

Have at it.

:)
 
Maurice said:
Also, it seems like a fair number of newbies here are under the impression that they have to start threads to increase their post count, when all they really have to do is reply to existing threads.
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Yeah, he did reply to an old thread (with the same Wikipedia quote), but it was shut down due to the forum's rules regarding necromancy (kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation). But yeah, closing the new thread made sense because there was no discussion (no idea why it was moved first... less clutter for GTD I guess). I had hoped to add to some discussion with some questions and research of my own, but I was at work, and when I attempted to reply, it was already closed, which was mildly annoying.

Any notes on a Timothy Leary connection, @Maurice? There's speculation on this site from 2008 to 2019, and outside speculation, as linked above in published books, but nothing concrete anywhere that I can see.

I get that Way to Eden is a Season 3 episode with probably very little surviving production material (and would a script or whatever reveal Fontana's inspiration for the character?).
 
There’s very little 3rd season story documentation. It appears J.M. Lucas preferred to work with meetings and phone calls and not story memos, and Freiberger followed suit, so the BTS documentation gets slim. I’ll look tho.
 
Tim Allen Thomason said:
Sorry he closed your Leary/Sevrin thread early. I was actually looking for information about a potential Severinsen link in the naming (it's probably a coincidence).
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Tim Allen Thomason said:
Yeah, he did reply to an old thread (with the same Wikipedia quote), but it was shut down due to the forum's rules regarding necromancy (kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation). But yeah, closing the new thread made sense because there was no discussion (no idea why it was moved first... less clutter for GTD I guess). I had hoped to add to some discussion with some questions and research of my own, but I was at work, and when I attempted to reply, it was already closed, which was mildly annoying.
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Can you please stop commenting on moderating decisions in-thread?
 
1001001 said:
Can you please stop commenting on moderating decisions in-thread?
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I think you misunderstood. I agreed with the close. I was just annoyed (at myself) for not making it in before the lock. That's what I get for prioritizing work over TrekBBS.

Maurice said:
There’s very little 3rd season story documentation. It appears J.M. Lucas preferred to work with meetings and phone calls and not story memos, and Freiberger followed suit, so the BTS documentation gets slim. I’ll look tho.
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Cool! You don't have to, but I think there might be something down that rabbit hole to explore.

As for the thread topic itself, I'm not sure if there's much to comment regarding Napier and his winning an audition. It's neat that he plays against type here as a die-hard hippie and later moved to gruff type roles. The guy had range.
 
His performance was buried in an episode that many people don't want to deal with, but for my money I thought Mr. Napier did an outstanding acting job. It has always made me smile that he was so musical and evidently helped write the songs for "The Way to Eden," because I think Adam was the only role I saw him in that even hinted at that. (Thinking Rambo (Rambo II?), Silence of the Lambs, and Austin Powers.)

I'm so glad he got to appear again in the franchise in the DS9 Quark-Odo-Rom episode. ("Little Green Men?") And I don't remember his U.S. military general character in that one breaking into song. :)
 
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:lol: at digits.

"His name was Adam." A great line from Spock.

And I just realized for the first time that in a way, er, Way, Adam is a bit similar to Alexander in "Plato's Stepchildren." Adam wasn't as central to the story as Alexander was in his ep, but I think both actors turned in very good to outstanding performances as sympathetic characters in ill-received episodes.
 
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