A Doctor Who Wiki for just TV Show Stories?

[Queen Mab]

Hello,

Does anyone else read the TARDIS Data Core or similar and wish there was just a Wiki for just Movie/TV Show stories rather than references to Doctor Who Mobile Phone/Website Games or older books that fly in the face of things later established in live action shows.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

You mean you don't like TARDIS Wikia?

 

[MacLeod]

Can't you just ignore the bits that refer to things other han the TV show?

 

[Lakenheath 72]

What has happened to Tardis.wikia? When I visited the wikia today, I discovered that it had changed to My Little Pony Friendship is Magic Wiki.

 

[mythme]

I know what your sayin'. Tardis Data Core doesn't make clear distinctions in its articles as to what elements of its statements are televised, what are audio info or what comes from a book or comic. For example.

"The Doctor's Tardis landed in a junkyard in Tottingham, on a Tuesday night when the rain was falling" (sources this, that and the other)

We all know the Tardis in Tottingham is from "Unearthly Child", but the Tuesday night tidbit could be from a comic and the rain bit could be mentioned in an audio.

They really should restructure the entire site to have only whats televised in the main article and then have an apocryphal section that details everything else; much like Memory Alpha does with Trek. Or at least italicize or colorize the articles' text that isn't from the TV show. Wookiepedia has the same problem with Star Wars. This is what happens when you canonize EVERYTHING. SW its trying to retroactively fix that issue, only to piss off a lot of fans who have accepted everything over 30+ years. In this regard, Trek has it right. I collect all the Trek novels (my lack of shelf space attests this) but I know what to consider canon and what is considered non-canon.

The only exception that I would grant Who is to OFFICIALLY canonize Big Finish (make it a streaming service!)

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

Well, it certainly doesn't take Dimensions in Time as canon, so thats certainty.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

I know what your sayin'. Tardis Data Core doesn't make clear distinctions in its articles as to what elements of its statements are televised, what are audio info or what comes from a book or comic. For example.

"The Doctor's Tardis landed in a junkyard in Tottingham, on a Tuesday night when the rain was falling" (sources this, that and the other)

We all know the Tardis in Tottingham is from "Unearthly Child", but the Tuesday night tidbit could be from a comic and the rain bit could be mentioned in an audio.

They really should restructure the entire site to have only whats televised in the main article and then have an apocryphal section that details everything else; much like Memory Alpha does with Trek. Or at least italicize or colorize the articles' text that isn't from the TV show. Wookiepedia has the same problem with Star Wars. This is what happens when you canonize EVERYTHING. SW its trying to retroactively fix that issue, only to piss off a lot of fans who have accepted everything over 30+ years. In this regard, Trek has it right. I collect all the Trek novels (my lack of shelf space attests this) but I know what to consider canon and what is considered non-canon.

I think there's a kind of reverence involved in some of the tie-in material, particularly the Virgin books, which held the fan interest for a long time after Survival and even after the TV Movie. A kind of reverence that even Big Finish attempts to not completely ignore by and by, though not always.

The only exception that I would grant Who is to OFFICIALLY canonize Big Finish (make it a streaming service!)

Same here. Performed drama>everything else. And it helps that Big Finish had a more obvious impact on NuWho.

 

[Iamnotspock]

We all know the Tardis in Tottingham is from "Unearthly Child"

That would be I.M. Foreman's junk yard at 76 Totter's Lane, Coal Hill, Shoreditch, London. There's no such place as Tottingham; perhaps you're thinking of Tottenham?

 

[mythme]

yes yes ok, forgive a Yank

 

[Iamnotspock]

yes yes ok, forgive a Yank

I'm just messing with ya.

 

[Queen Mab]

I know what your sayin'. Tardis Data Core doesn't make clear distinctions in its articles as to what elements of its statements are televised, what are audio info or what comes from a book or comic. For example.

"The Doctor's Tardis landed in a junkyard in Tottingham, on a Tuesday night when the rain was falling" (sources this, that and the other)

We all know the Tardis in Tottingham is from "Unearthly Child", but the Tuesday night tidbit could be from a comic and the rain bit could be mentioned in an audio.

They really should restructure the entire site to have only whats televised in the main article and then have an apocryphal section that details everything else; much like Memory Alpha does with Trek. Or at least italicize or colorize the articles' text that isn't from the TV show. Wookiepedia has the same problem with Star Wars. This is what happens when you canonize EVERYTHING. SW its trying to retroactively fix that issue, only to piss off a lot of fans who have accepted everything over 30+ years. In this regard, Trek has it right. I collect all the Trek novels (my lack of shelf space attests this) but I know what to consider canon and what is considered non-canon.

The only exception that I would grant Who is to OFFICIALLY canonize Big Finish (make it a streaming service!)

How could we do this? Would we need a band of people committed to being editors of a new TV/Movies/Minisode only Wikia?

 

[Csalem]

It would be nice to have a Memory Alpha and a Memory Beta for Doctor Who but I think Tardis has been around so long now it would be difficult to split it up or start from scratch. Might be easier to suggest a presentation change to those editors. Top half of page has information from Screen and bottom half has the books and audios, etc.

 

[kirk55555]

I'm of two minds about this. One the one hand, I loved the old SW EU, and still consider it "my" Star Wars Continuity, and like how its still a big presence on Wookiepedia. On the other hand, that makes me feel a bit weird in this case because for Doctor who I only count the TV show as canon, and would like to see a memory beta style site so they could remove all the book/comic/big finish stuff, and leave the in-continuity TV stuff. But, in the end, it doesn't really bother me. I've never actually had that much trouble separating canon from non-canon in the TARDIS wiki, and its not usually a huge deal when it is vague.

 

[PhaserLightShow]

Hello,

Does anyone else read the TARDIS Data Core or similar and wish there was just a Wiki for just Movie/TV Show stories rather than references to Doctor Who Mobile Phone/Website Games or older books that fly in the face of things later established in live action shows.

In my opinion that would be a terrible wiki. I believe that the BigFinish Audiobooks and Target Physical Books (original stories such as "Slipback" and novelisations for episodes like "The Daleks Masterplan"). Unless they contradict what is onscreen, they are canon to me. And a page on any Doctor Who wiki on a story such as "The Daleks Masterplan" would be quite incomplete without referring to older books (such as the novelization of TDM, written by John Peel) because so much of the story is now lost but the book has all you would want to know.

@PhaserLightShow

 

[Turtletrekker]

The fact that Tardis Datacore doesn't limit itself to just TV is one of the reasons I like it.

 

[Marten]

To be fair, the Tardis wiki is a lot less confusing than Wookiepedia, which is just a big mess. Especially considering the new canon policy of the films.

 

[kirk55555]

Wookiepedia isn't that confusing. It has tabs for Legends and canon. Just klick the tab you want, and get the info that you wants. Seems simple enough, and its layout has always seemed pretty good to me