The Final Five comic

nahuatl · April 15 2009, 04:55 AM

This is a preview of the final five comic #1 and it totally trips me out.

http://indiepulp.blogspot.com/2009/0...inal-five.html

Guess the Final Five are far more important than the show portrayed them and might even live up to their mythology.

Harvey · April 15 2009, 05:42 AM

This is written by one of the shows writers, the one who wrote "No Exit," right?

It looks interesting, that's for sure. I wonder why the panel recounting Starbuck's death in "Maelstrom" is there. Some further information on that event, perhaps?

nahuatl · April 15 2009, 09:12 AM

About the writer, I think so not sure though. About Kara, I think it means that Kara is Pythia. But how she lived on Kobol 4000 years before the events of BSG, yet her ship was found on earth 2000 years later I don't know. Good to know that the final five are much much older than perviously thought and weren't just 5 radom scientists.

Harvey · April 15 2009, 03:01 PM

I don't know if it's a direct line between Starbuck and Pythia, or if the comic is just drawing a parallel.

Will this be collected in a TPB at some point?

Sharr Khan · April 15 2009, 05:46 PM

What if Ellen turns out to be Pythia? Noticed the smoking "Mr Tigh".
More information - been waiting for this comic since I learned about it. I do hope it gets collected in a TPB.

Obviously the Head Angels helped Pythia out with some of her foreknowledge.

Sharr

nahuatl · April 15 2009, 07:04 PM

^ I think the fact that Tigh was walking around Kobol 4000 years ago it's safe assume so were Ellen, Tyrol, Tory and Anders and they were still The Five. I still think that Pythia looks a lot like Kara.

V · April 18 2009, 01:49 AM

well its interesting and he was a writer, but my problems remain that:

1-the spinoff comics are crap

2-they're not Star Wars comics quality, they're bad Star Trek comics quality

3-the artwork is terrible and doesn't "look like" anything in BSG or the characters

4-The show I started watching was a hardcore military scifi, and had jaw-dropping internal continuity. Then they shifted to "we're making it up as we go along, and it was TRULY Angels and God and Deus Ex Machina the whole time!"

While mildly interesting, it just can't change the fact that "this isn't what you planned out from the start, and retroactive explanation is meaningless"

5- another problem I have is....normally I LIKE deleted material, but in season 3, SO MUCH existed only in the writer's room or on the cutting room floor, and they'd say "oh the answer is in the DVD scenes" or "Ron Moore explained that in an obscure magazine interview" or "a *comic* tried to explain it* that you reach the point where you go...."GOOD STORYTELLING would have explained it DURING THE EPISODES"

Nobody · April 18 2009, 02:50 AM

I thought season 3 was sufficiently explained in the episodes. None of the deleted materials or obscure interviews affected how I already viewed the material -- in fact, I didn't even bother with interviews until season 4. And I got through season 3 just fine.

I'm not gonna bother going into the "pre-planned" debate again. It's useless. Except to say, retroactive explanation isn't meaningless. Sometimes ideas don't come to you until you write something later down the line -- and something in your first season is seen in a different light and you decided to develop that storyline. It's doesn't nullify the credibility of the storyline. In any respect, are these comics even considered canon? The cover suggests no, just one writer's idea of what happened.

Anyway, I checked the local shops and it looked like issue 1 got postponed a week. Gotta love comics and their publishing consistency.

-nobody

Dennis · April 18 2009, 04:23 AM

V wrote:

4-The show I started watching was a hardcore military scifi

It never was for a moment, not even in the miniseries. The surfaces had a nice military look to them, that's all.

DarthMarley · April 18 2009, 07:48 AM

Was too!

middyseafort · April 18 2009, 05:35 PM

V wrote:

4-The show I started watching was a hardcore military scifi, and had jaw-dropping internal continuity. Then they shifted to "we're making it up as we go along, and it was TRULY Angels and God and Deus Ex Machina the whole time!"

While nuBSG followed military parlance and traditions pretty damn closely, it was more a show about how a group of characters deal with the aftermath of planetary destruction and the journey they take in order to survive. I never saw it as hardcore military or, even, hardcore SF.

Naturalistic Space Opera is what I think RDM called it in his treatment, and damnit if it isn't what we got at the end of the day.

Bishbot · April 18 2009, 06:32 PM

V wrote:

4-The show I started watching was a hardcore military scifi, and had jaw-dropping internal continuity. Then they shifted to "we're making it up as we go along, and it was TRULY Angels and God and Deus Ex Machina the whole time!"

While mildly interesting, it just can't change the fact that "this isn't what you planned out from the start, and retroactive explanation is meaningless"

5- another problem I have is....normally I LIKE deleted material, but in season 3, SO MUCH existed only in the writer's room or on the cutting room floor, and they'd say "oh the answer is in the DVD scenes" or "Ron Moore explained that in an obscure magazine interview" or "a *comic* tried to explain it* that you reach the point where you go...."GOOD STORYTELLING would have explained it DURING THE EPISODES"

I don't really dispute points 1-3 but what the heck have 4 and 5 got to do with the comics?

V · April 19 2009, 02:46 AM

points 3 and 5? Well....basically what I'm trying to say is that there used to be a point when I ATE UP all BSG supplementary material....but now I think the last 2 seasons weren't as great (well, season 3 was bad....season 4 was as good as it could be after that)........and my point is that I now think of the comics as just yet another attempt to cash in on the BSG brand name.

nahuatl · April 19 2009, 03:24 AM

Well on some points I definitely agree with V on parts of 4 and all of 5, but I want more BSG back story dammit and if these comics will give them to me then so be it.

Bishbot · April 19 2009, 11:12 AM

V wrote:

points 3 and 5? Well....basically what I'm trying to say is that there used to be a point when I ATE UP all BSG supplementary material....but now I think the last 2 seasons weren't as great (well, season 3 was bad....season 4 was as good as it could be after that)........and my point is that I now think of the comics as just yet another attempt to cash in on the BSG brand name.

It was just kind of an odd thing to bring up - I thought the deleted scenes thing was weird as well, but it has zero to do with the comics.

The comics were never that good, unfortunately. The first 12 issue arc is agressively non-canon and not interesting enough to stand on its own. Season Zero is a little better, but it's almost too exciting. For example, Galactica crashes on a planet at one point - in the series that could have been awesome, but in a prequel comic it just feels too over the top. I did, however, enjoy the Origins comics they did. I'm getting sick of buying comics that are just "ok" for the price though, so I doubt I'll be getting these.