A couple more aliens from behind the scenes - Page 2

Bertie · October 28 2009, 06:22 PM

Christopher wrote:

It bugs me that on the command chair's arm controls, "Hail" and "Fire" are right next to each other. One slip of the finger could start a war.

Well, the other reality had "Alert" and "Jettison Pod" right next to each other...

startrekrcks · October 28 2009, 06:24 PM

I thought there was a salt vampire see when I was listening to the Trek Cast the guy from trekmovie said there was a member of the salt vampire species maybe I was wrong anyway those pics are awesome.

CaptainDonovin · October 28 2009, 07:09 PM

M'Sharak wrote:

SalvorHardin wrote:

By the way, they had this chess tournament and Yelchin used to kick Greenwood's ass. So when in the documentary Greenwood is supposed to talk about Yelchin he just stares for a few seconds:

and goes : Next !

That's funny.

That's hilarious. Looks like the cast really got along well and had fun which showed in the film.

Yeoman Randi · October 28 2009, 08:59 PM

You can really see the resemblance between Quinto and his brother, even with the makeup.

startrekrcks · October 29 2009, 12:02 AM

I love the meeting pics with Nichelle and Zoe, Walter and Anton very nice and warming

JarodRussell · October 29 2009, 12:46 AM

Ghoul Malakai wrote:

As per usual, the concept art shows that the VFX team really took Church's overall excellent version of the Enterprise in the wrong direction.

Yes, and it hurts pretty badly.

Tom Servo · October 29 2009, 02:08 AM

Ghoul Malakai wrote:

As per usual, the concept art shows that the VFX team really took Church's overall excellent version of the Enterprise in the wrong direction.

Besides the bussard color and the deflector dish, they aren't THAT different, certainly not enough for me to understand why someone would like one and not the other...

cubbie · October 29 2009, 02:22 AM

These photos are great! Thanks!

Dennis · October 29 2009, 04:26 AM

The version closer to Church's is not as good as what they ended up with.

Gep Malakai · October 29 2009, 04:29 AM

Tom Servo wrote:

Besides the bussard color and the deflector dish, they aren't THAT different, certainly not enough for me to understand why someone would like one and not the other...

Well, it's the little things--the proportions of the engines relative to the rest of the ship, the spacing of said engines, the length and curvature of the nacelle pylons, the hull detailing, the rim of the saucer, the thickness of the saucer, the shape of the bridge dome, the "planetary sensor dome" (or whatever that is on the bottom of the saucer), the retention of the copper rings behind the deflector dish now seemingly encased behind a glass dome, and, yes, the bussards and the deflector dish.

The design needs more development that this, obviously, but I would like to have seen it evolve in a direction other than modifying the proportions and grafting movie refit details all over the hull. Church's decision to take what's clearly the original 1960s ship and reinterpret it through an organic "technology unchained" lens feels fresh, and I think the final version deserved more of that and less of what we got. (Which is not to say I hate what we saw in the film, I just don't love it either. It certainly doesn't have the same impact, IMO, that these concept paintings do.)

darkwing_duck1 · October 29 2009, 10:47 AM

The sad thing for me about the new alien pics is that it is entirely likely that is ALL we will ever see or know about them. Old school Trek made a point to create names and planets and histories for it's aliens...

Data Holmes · October 29 2009, 01:19 PM

Ghoul Malakai wrote:

Tom Servo wrote:

Besides the bussard color and the deflector dish, they aren't THAT different, certainly not enough for me to understand why someone would like one and not the other...

Well, it's the little things--the proportions of the engines relative to the rest of the ship, the spacing of said engines, the length and curvature of the nacelle pylons, the hull detailing, the rim of the saucer, the thickness of the saucer, the shape of the bridge dome, the "planetary sensor dome" (or whatever that is on the bottom of the saucer), the retention of the copper rings behind the deflector dish now seemingly encased behind a glass dome, and, yes, the bussards and the deflector dish.

The design needs more development that this, obviously, but I would like to have seen it evolve in a direction other than modifying the proportions and grafting movie refit details all over the hull. Church's decision to take what's clearly the original 1960s ship and reinterpret it through an organic "technology unchained" lens feels fresh, and I think the final version deserved more of that and less of what we got. (Which is not to say I hate what we saw in the film, I just don't love it either. It certainly doesn't have the same impact, IMO, that these concept paintings do.)

QFT

Christopher · October 29 2009, 04:05 PM

darkwing_duck1 wrote:

The sad thing for me about the new alien pics is that it is entirely likely that is ALL we will ever see or know about them. Old school Trek made a point to create names and planets and histories for it's aliens...

Sometimes it did, sometimes it didn't. Robert Fletcher did that for the background aliens in TMP, but we still know nothing about the various background ambassadors in "Journey to Babel," and the only information that's out there about the background aliens from The Voyage Home was invented by the creators of a tie-in RPG, not by the filmmakers themselves (though the production crew did have informal nicknames for one or two of the species, such as the Efrosians). There's a similar dearth of information about the background aliens from TFF, TUC, many TNG episodes, DS9, etc. If anything, Fletcher's thoroughness with the TMP aliens was the exception, not the rule.

Therin of Andor · October 29 2009, 08:51 PM

darkwing_duck1 wrote:

The sad thing for me about the new alien pics is that it is entirely likely that is ALL we will ever see or know about them. Old school Trek made a point to create names and planets and histories for it's aliens...

No. If you're talking about ST:TMP, then the UFP alien race names and mini-biographies were made up by costume designer, Robert Fletcher, and although his notes made it into places like the souvenir movie program, and a few gum cards, and "The Making of TMP", they weren't necessary noticed or accepted by future productions. Many of the alien ambassadors' distinctive outfits were given to brand new UFP aliens in ST IV. For example, in ST IV, the Tellarites wear TMP Kazarite robes, and a human female wears a TMP Arcturian's leather uniform. Other humanoids wear TMP Zaranite suede with new turbans, and the ST IV Zaranites are presumed as such because they are wearing the old TMP breathing masks.

Similarly, the bar scene of ST III had lots of quirky aliens, none of whom were named, or ever seen again. Ditto most of the aliens of ST V.

The ST IV aliens were named by FASA RPG, with only the Efrosian named in production materials (a caption in an official still) - and the ST VI novelization ended up branding the same race (the new UFP President) a Deltan!

SalvorHardin · October 29 2009, 08:57 PM

One more alien