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Old November 7 2009, 04:50 AM   #1
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please help me develop a truly English Superhero

without using magic (I hate the mixing of magic & superheros) please help me develop, a truly Britsh Superhero, who has some connection to what is good & great about England, and could be seen as a England Superman? without being Superman had he landed in the UK (which has already been done)

and no Boris Johnson doesnt count for any HIGNFY fans in the audience.

My best theory is someone connected to an alien device stone henge, that gives him the power of flight, speed & strenght, but only during the day, at night he is powerless and that is when his arch enemy has super abilities.

My best theory is total rubbish.
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Old November 7 2009, 05:38 AM   #2
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He has to end every sentence with "yeah?"


Jamie Oliver: "We're going to drizzle some olive oil on this, yeah?"

Some chav on Eastenders: "Jus' tell me 'oo 'e is an' I'll punch 'is lights out, yeah?"



I like most things about the British but I CANNOT stand that habit.
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Old November 7 2009, 06:05 AM   #3
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we dont all say that, and I don't a superhero should reflect chav values, however he could have a story called "Attacks of the Chavs"
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Old November 7 2009, 06:49 AM   #4
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Re: please help me develop a truly English Superhero

Captain Britain? The Beef Eater? neither of these any good?
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Old November 7 2009, 06:56 AM   #5
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You mean like this guy?
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Old November 7 2009, 07:03 AM   #6
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The Doctor

He is the quintessential British superhero, and certainly someone no American could ever dream up.
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Old November 7 2009, 07:33 AM   #7
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I hear you on the suspicion of magic, but if there's no connection whatsoever to Arthurian mythology, I for one'd be disappointed.
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Old November 7 2009, 08:19 AM   #8
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just write a super-hero who lives in Britain and talks in British idiom and you're half-way there. it's what i'm planning. He's called 'Galahad' and is a self-declared Knight of Albion. he chose Galahad because - he claims - his heart is pure and his telekinetic abilities give him the strength of ten men.

the British super-soldier team the Knights of Albion are rather keen to catch up with him...
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Old November 7 2009, 12:22 PM   #9
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Captain Britain? The Beef Eater? neither of these any good?
not heard of the Beef Eater, but Captain Britain was given magical abilities by Merlin according to my research, so no amount of working with Gordon Brown can make him what im after.

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The Doctor

He is the quintessential British superhero, and certainly someone no American could ever dream up.
yes he is, I agree but I was looking for more a DC/Marevel comics style supehero.

let me explain, as a kid I watched Lois & Clark on saturday night TV, and loved it, recently the BBC has bought back the "family" TV show to saturday night, and ive been wondering why there is no British superhero who could have such a TV show.

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I hear you on the suspicion of magic, but if there's no connection whatsoever to Arthurian mythology, I for one'd be disappointed.
I dont completey disagree with this, some connection might work.

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just write a super-hero who lives in Britain and talks in British idiom and you're half-way there. it's what i'm planning. He's called 'Galahad' and is a self-declared Knight of Albion. he chose Galahad because - he claims - his heart is pure and his telekinetic abilities give him the strength of ten men.

the British super-soldier team the Knights of Albion are rather keen to catch up with him...
so Galahad, when is this series set, I was rather thinking the modern day

Checkmate Union Jack, not keen. However I do like that he is pictured in front of the tube map.

Anyways im thinking of maybe basing it on the Arthurian legend, but giving the Arthurian characters a less than human origin. Use that as a birth point for the powers of the new hero.
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Old November 7 2009, 12:48 PM   #10
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let me explain, as a kid I watched Lois & Clark on saturday night TV, and loved it, recently the BBC has bought back the "family" TV show to saturday night, and ive been wondering why there is no British superhero who could have such a TV show.
Be careful what you wish for, last time the BBC tried that we got James Dreyfus in orange tights.

The problem with the concept of a british superhero, is how do you make him "british" without rendering him an utter joke. Most attempts by american companies result in superhero's that are the equivalent of an american hero called Captain Obese-Redneck-Hillbilly.

Rather than make any character relate to a british audience through developing their personality and sensibilities, comic companies have instead resorted to gimmicks and stereotypes.

It would be nice to have a superhero that doesnt ask for "cuppa tea, guv'nor" after saving the day, nor wear a ludicrous beefeater costume. At the moment Intrinsical is right, the only true british superhero we have is The Doctor.
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Old November 7 2009, 01:07 PM   #11
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Galahad exists in the not-to-distant future, in a world where mutants are emerging and several governments are using them and enhanced humans as super-soldiers.

Galahad is an extremely powerful telekinetic mutant. his only connection to Arthurian myth is his name.

The Knights of Albion team are Britannia and True Brit (enhanced human soldiers), Lionheart, Overdrive, Night-Wolf, Hyper-Woman, Volt and Warrior (enhanced mutant soldiers) and Sureshot (an enhanced human) and Steel Soldier, an Iron Man type.
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Old November 7 2009, 02:27 PM   #12
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Well, for both name and costume, I'd go with Redcoat. And then take it from there.
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Old November 7 2009, 02:33 PM   #13
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Let's say that the uniform's original occupant (a British soldier) got abducted by aliens. He was beamed up, leaving the uniform behind, irradiated. It gets handed to his family, who keep it in a trunk in the attic. Generations later, a descendant of his spends an extended period of time wearing it. Halloween party, or something. And begins developing powers as a result..
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Old November 7 2009, 03:30 PM   #14
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let me explain, as a kid I watched Lois & Clark on saturday night TV, and loved it, recently the BBC has bought back the "family" TV show to saturday night, and ive been wondering why there is no British superhero who could have such a TV show.
Be careful what you wish for, last time the BBC tried that we got James Dreyfus in orange tights.

The problem with the concept of a british superhero, is how do you make him "british" without rendering him an utter joke. Most attempts by american companies result in superhero's that are the equivalent of an american hero called Captain Obese-Redneck-Hillbilly.

Rather than make any character relate to a british audience through developing their personality and sensibilities, comic companies have instead resorted to gimmicks and stereotypes.

It would be nice to have a superhero that doesnt ask for "cuppa tea, guv'nor" after saving the day, nor wear a ludicrous beefeater costume. At the moment Intrinsical is right, the only true british superhero we have is The Doctor.
I do know what you mean, not really looking for the hero to get his super strength from drinking tea. I actually dont mind names like "Union Jack" for the hero.

Really enjoyed seeing the F4 in London, I wish we had more like that.

As for My Hero that was a comedy on a different level.

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Galahad exists in the not-to-distant future, in a world where mutants are emerging and several governments are using them and enhanced humans as super-soldiers.

Galahad is an extremely powerful telekinetic mutant. his only connection to Arthurian myth is his name.

The Knights of Albion team are Britannia and True Brit (enhanced human soldiers), Lionheart, Overdrive, Night-Wolf, Hyper-Woman, Volt and Warrior (enhanced mutant soldiers) and Sureshot (an enhanced human) and Steel Soldier, an Iron Man type.
mutans are an interesting idea, however I would like to avoid it being accused of it being a X Men rip off.

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Let's say that the uniform's original occupant (a British soldier) got abducted by aliens. He was beamed up, leaving the uniform behind, irradiated. It gets handed to his family, who keep it in a trunk in the attic. Generations later, a descendant of his spends an extended period of time wearing it. Halloween party, or something. And begins developing powers as a result..
some interesting ideas here.

im in & out today will post more later.

currently theory im working on, is the son of merlin who was meant to follow his dad (an elderly person from an alt reality, with advance technology mistaken for magic) but somehow ends up in the present day when his advanced tech & genetics, make him a superhero, being the son of Merlin he stands for kind of thing the his Dad died, and when he sees the legend his dad has become, he becomes a superhero in hopes of making Britain a place of legend.

I know I know im ripping off Doctor Who, as apparntly he once said he was Merlin.
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Old November 7 2009, 03:38 PM   #15
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Let's say that the uniform's original occupant (a British soldier) got abducted by aliens. He was beamed up, leaving the uniform behind, irradiated. It gets handed to his family, who keep it in a trunk in the attic. Generations later, a descendant of his spends an extended period of time wearing it. Halloween party, or something. And begins developing powers as a result..
Oh, and not just anyone should be able to get powers from wearing the costume. I'm thinkin' just the guy's descendants, as his genes have something to do with why he was abducted in the first place..
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Old November 7 2009, 04:25 PM   #16
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Well, for both name and costume, I'd go with Redcoat. And then take it from there.
Redcoat really isnt the best name to go with for an English superhero. It may conjure up images of a 18th/19th century soldier for americans, but now a Redcoat is an entertainer at Butlins holiday camps.

So unless his alter ego is going to be Shane Richie, another name would be better.

currently theory im working on, is the son of merlin who was meant to follow his dad (an elderly person from an alt reality, with advance technology mistaken for magic) but somehow ends up in the present day when his advanced tech & genetics, make him a superhero, being the son of Merlin he stands for kind of thing the his Dad died, and when he sees the legend his dad has become, he becomes a superhero in hopes of making Britain a place of legend.
You could use the merlin myth to generate his nemesis as well. Perhaps his technology/unique physiology is of interest to the Le Fay Corporation.
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Old November 7 2009, 04:36 PM   #17
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Isn't the whole Merlin/Arthur thing kind of overplayed? Especially with Stargate most recently milking the shit out of it.
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Well, for both name and costume, I'd go with Redcoat. And then take it from there.
Redcoat really isnt the best name to go with for an English superhero. It may conjure up images of a 18th/19th century soldier for americans, but now a Redcoat is an entertainer at Butlins holiday camps.
Indeed, I thought the abduction spot should be the new world.. Considering the bastardization you speak of, it might actually be good if something was done to reappropriate the term, as it were.
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Old November 7 2009, 05:14 PM   #19
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Haven't you already got a British superhero?

Didn't that Dougal guy from "Father Ted" already do this?
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