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View Poll Results: Worst TNG episode ever?
Justice (a.k.a. SHUT UP Wesley and DIE DIE DIE) 12 15.79%
Shades of Gray (a.k.a. Hey, Deanna remember the time I was in a sucky episode, let's relive it) 22 28.95%
Imaginary Friend (a.k.a. Dumbest episode to revolve around a child that wasn't Wesley) 9 11.84%
Emergence (a.k.a. A ton of bricks fall on Deanna, and that was the highlight) 4 5.26%
Other - Nominate your own! 29 38.16%
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Old November 14 2009, 02:41 PM   #81
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Re: Worst. Episode. Ever. Poll.

Shades of gray.

I actually liked emergence, lol.
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Old November 15 2009, 06:49 AM   #82
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Symbiosis

This scene alone makes it the black hole of suckiness:
Wesley: Data, I can understand how this can happen to the Ornarans. What I can't understand is why anyone would voluntarily become dependent on a chemical?

Data: Voluntary addiction to drugs is a recurrent theme in many cultures.

Tasha: Wesley, no one wants to become dependent. That happens later.

Wesley: But it does happen. So why do people start?

Tasha: On my home planet there was so much poverty and violence that for some, the only escape was through drugs.

Wesley: How can a chemical substance provide an escape?

Tasha: It doesn't, but it makes you think it does. You have to understand drugs can make you feel good. The make you feel on top of the world. You're happy, sure of yourself, in control.

Wesley: But it's artificial.

Tasha: It doesn't feel artificial until the drug wears off. Then you pay the price. Before you know it you're taking the drug not to feel good, but to keep from feeling bad.

Wesley: And that's the trap?

Tasha: All you care about is getting your next dosage. Nothing else matters.

Wesley: I guess I just don't understand.

Tasha: Wesley, I hope you never do.
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Old November 15 2009, 11:26 AM   #83
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You see, TOS -- even at it's worst is STILL watchable and entertaining. That can't be said of "Modern Trek"...at least I can't say it. Maybe you disagree, no?
I think you could say this of DS9. Whereas the worst episodes of, say, Voyager, are normally just excruciatingly boring, DS9's worst episodes like Let He Who is Without Sin tend to be watchable in a sort of car crash, watching through your fingers way.
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Old November 15 2009, 05:02 PM   #84
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I think that "racist" is thrown around a lot to the point where everyone is oversensitive about racism.

Don't get me wrong, true racism is horrible and shouldn't be tolerated, but people like to slap the racism label on to harmless things as a frivolous attack.
I wasn't doing so, though. I was pointing out that in my opinion "Justice" isn't racist (who would it be racist against, exactly? Californian free-love communes, I guess, but they are not strictly speaking a 'race') - however, I was pretty goddamn offended, personally, as an Irish guy, by "Up the Long Ladder."

That's every hoky, stupid cliche about how Irish people talk and act and then projected into the future. So, yes, I think 'racist' is an applicable turn.

Not as racist as The Birth of a Nation, or as racist as a gentleman's agreement, but it's imposing a rather preposterous and offensive racial cariacature, so if the shoe fits (and it does) then on I'd slip it.

That doesn't mean I'm particularly histrionic about it. Well, maybe I am, but I try to have a sense of humour too.

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You see, TOS -- even at it's worst is STILL watchable and entertaining. That can't be said of "Modern Trek"...at least I can't say it. Maybe you disagree, no?
I would. Hell will freeze over and curdle itself before I ever sit down to "The Way to Eden" again. Star Trek at its worst, in any of the series, is downright unwatchable. That is the one great constant of the franchise.
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Old November 17 2009, 11:27 AM   #85
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I'm surprised no-one's mentioned The Outrageous Okona yet.

Awful episode, stupid 'A' plot, but equally stupid 'B' plot (Data's comedy on the holodeck). Eurgh.

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Old November 17 2009, 09:22 PM   #86
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darmok. there were worse ones, but the reviews made me believe it's great. what did i get? a funny looking alien with an aching back, talking gibberish, and waving a dagger. big dissapointment.
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To me it showed just how difficult it can be to try to understand an "alien" language, though it is ours, sort of, so similar, but not. I found it an iteresting study into human language, gestures, and cultures.
Now Sub Rosa, got to agree with everyone about that. Just so very bad.
If it were not Trek, I might have liked it, had I not felt like I had just been plunged (pun intended) into an Anne Rice novel. I like Anne Rice, I like Trek, and never, ever should the two of them have met.
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Old November 19 2009, 08:59 PM   #87
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Shades of Grey.

Just one long, interminable hour of lazy stock footage and bad dialogue that makes even "TATV" look respectable by comparison. The lowpoint of modern television TREK if you don't count the shite Irish holodeck episodes of VOYAGER.

Ick.
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Old November 19 2009, 11:35 PM   #88
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Klaitu wrote: View Post
I think that "racist" is thrown around a lot to the point where everyone is oversensitive about racism.

Don't get me wrong, true racism is horrible and shouldn't be tolerated, but people like to slap the racism label on to harmless things as a frivolous attack.
I wasn't doing so, though. I was pointing out that in my opinion "Justice" isn't racist (who would it be racist against, exactly? Californian free-love communes, I guess, but they are not strictly speaking a 'race') - however, I was pretty goddamn offended, personally, as an Irish guy, by "Up the Long Ladder."

That's every hoky, stupid cliche about how Irish people talk and act and then projected into the future. So, yes, I think 'racist' is an applicable turn.

Not as racist as The Birth of a Nation, or as racist as a gentleman's agreement, but it's imposing a rather preposterous and offensive racial cariacature, so if the shoe fits (and it does) then on I'd slip it.

That doesn't mean I'm particularly histrionic about it. Well, maybe I am, but I try to have a sense of humour too.
However bad the bringloidi were, that holographic Fair Haven town on Voyager must have been a thousand times worse.
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Old Yesterday, 09:38 PM   #89
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Oh, yeah. "Code of Honor" makes me want to smash my own balls flat with a rusty hammer as well. That thing is so abysmally awful even Charlie Manson feels better about himself after watching it.
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Old Today, 12:22 AM   #90
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However bad the bringloidi were, that holographic Fair Haven town on Voyager must have been a thousand times worse.
Actually.... no. Not that I didn't like them either, but at least they're portrayed as the kitschy fantasy world of a bunch of American types, set in some somewhat distant Irish 'past.'

The bringloidi are Irishmen from the future and yet they were laughably dated even when the episode aired, and play on traditional (and typically British) racial depictions of the Irish as a bunch of affably boorish ignoramus farmers. Trust me, that gives plenty of offense.
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Old Today, 01:17 AM   #91
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Loud As A Whisper. Just found it horrible for no specific reason.

I actually quite like Shades of Gray.
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Old Today, 02:02 AM   #92
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Violations ... "It is an embarrassment for TNG. It’s writing, directing, production, acting and even its music are atrocious. And its premise is a very poor choice for episodic television."
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Old Today, 03:43 AM   #93
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Other:
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"The Price"

Sub Rosa is a close 2nd.
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