USS Constellation, NCC-1017 - Page 14

Vance · July 22 2009, 10:29 PM

Captain Robert April wrote:

Nobody said it was an efficient planet eater. In fact, its table manners are dowright horrid.

Heh.

But it's kind of the point. It wasn't supposed to destroy the planet down to the last atom. It was just to reduce it to rubble, refuel (whatever it needed) from the mass now around, and then move on. It's a war machine, first and foremost.

MadMan1701A · July 23 2009, 01:41 AM

Vance wrote:

Captain Robert April wrote:

Nobody said it was an efficient planet eater. In fact, its table manners are dowright horrid.

Heh.

But it's kind of the point. It wasn't supposed to destroy the planet down to the last atom. It was just to reduce it to rubble, refuel (whatever it needed) from the mass now around, and then move on. It's a war machine, first and foremost.

That's true... but the bigger it is, the bigger the proton beam can be. Therefore, the faster it can chop up said planet.

I'll be home tomorrow... so I might sketch out some ideas. does anyone know of any neat concepts they've seen over the years of an updated machine?

DS9Sega · July 23 2009, 02:40 AM

The DDM as shown in the original effects shots would be about 13,330 feet long if you go by the size of the Enterprise (not the shuttle or Constellation). I built a 3D model of it back around 1990 and determined the size by comparing the Enterprise to it when it's in profile in front of the DDM to the DDM's maw height.

SonicRanger · July 23 2009, 02:54 AM

The Doomsday Machine has already been made much larger:

http://trekmovie.com/2007/02/10/the-...e-screenshots/

For example...

Old effect: http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uplo..._ep/old_20.jpg

New effect: http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uplo..._ep/new_20.jpg

BolianAdmiral · July 23 2009, 04:16 AM

^

TOSR is so silly, and that first link proves it. The original footage looked so much better, than the "improved" footage. I mean, TOSR is basically just an attempt to make the BEST "old cheesy" effects you can make, which backfires, because it looks even worse.

Mr. Laser Beam · July 23 2009, 04:58 AM

Herkimer Jitty wrote:

Apparently someone hasn't heard of a napkin.

This is why I don't buy nice clothes for the Doomsday Machine anymore.

Captain Robau uses the Doomsday Machine as a French tickler.

newtype_alpha · July 23 2009, 08:12 PM

BolianAdmiral wrote:

^

TOSR is so silly, and that first link proves it. The original footage looked so much better, than the "improved" footage. I mean, TOSR is basically just an attempt to make the BEST "old cheesy" effects you can make, which backfires, because it looks even worse.

Are you joking? With the original show featuring phaser effects that looked like Chuck Jones animation? USS Constellation with the strings visible, half the details missing, a flying wafflecone that looks like it was made out of construction paper?

Don't get me wrong, it's always been one of my favorite episodes (and all time favorite original series music suite) but the original FX were just plain ghastly.

Plecostomus · July 23 2009, 08:15 PM

BolianAdmiral wrote:

^

TOSR is so silly, and that first link proves it. The original footage looked so much better, than the "improved" footage. I mean, TOSR is basically just an attempt to make the BEST "old cheesy" effects you can make, which backfires, because it looks even worse.

Never seen an episode then have you?

Teasing aside it's all opinion. I think it looks much better remastered.

newtype_alpha · August 2 2009, 11:13 PM

TrekBBS-III: the Search for MadMan1701A.

Please tell me you're still working on this, Mad. Do not force me to release my flying monkeys...

MadMan1701A · August 3 2009, 12:43 PM

newtype_alpha wrote:

TrekBBS-III: the Search for MadMan1701A.

Please tell me you're still working on this, Mad. Do not force me to release my flying monkeys...

Hey, yeah, kind of.

I've lost some of my motivation... I'm trying to find it.

There's really not much left... detailing, and texturing.

Maybe I'll have something soon.

Soar_Dude · August 3 2009, 11:32 PM

Mr. Laser Beam wrote:

Captain Robau uses the Doomsday Machine as a French tickler.

MadMan1701A · August 7 2009, 07:03 PM

Soar_Dude wrote:

Mr. Laser Beam wrote:

Captain Robau uses the Doomsday Machine as a French tickler.

Wow.

MadMan1701A · August 7 2009, 07:10 PM

Ok, I have some progress! The modeling of the ship is finished. I'm fixing to start right up on the texturing. Since I built in so much of the detail this time, that should be easy.

Here's what I've got...

Between work, watching Stargate on DVD (for the first time

) and everything going on, it's hard to get much time to work on this. Thankfully, work was slow today.

I finished the phaser banks, the torpedo tubes, the windows, and some greebling. On the windows, I did something different; instead of having them inset, like normal, I actually have them flush with the hull, with a external frame on the outside... kind of like an RV window.

What do you guys think?

kaisernathan1701 · August 8 2009, 05:07 PM

Looks good to me

newtype_alpha · August 9 2009, 11:00 PM

That's ALOT of phaser armament for a ship this size.