What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

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  1. Moviefan2k4

    Moviefan2k4 Commander Red Shirt

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    I would hardly call David's death a willing sacrifice. Even though Saavik says in The Voyage Home that he gave his life to save Spock, the actual scenes in the previous film don't depict that. Instead, he is murdered on Kruge's orders, without concern or conscience.
     
  2. CorporalCaptain

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    David gave his life to save Saavik who was about to be killed instead.
     
  3. Farscape One

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    I disagree about David.

    The Klingon was about to kill Saavik. David heard the blade open up as he was about to plunge it into her, and then he attacked the Klingon. Obviously, he was probably hoping to disarm him and save them, but he had to know that the possibility of him getting killed so the others can live was very high.

    So he absolutely was sacrificing himself.
     
  4. HotRod

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    You weren't paying attention. It was Saavik who was picked to be killed. David intervened and was killed instead. David died saving a life, a heroes death.
     
  5. 1001001

    1001001 Serial Canon Violator Moderator

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  6. fireproof78

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    Let the evidence speak for itself:
     
  7. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    David stepped in to protect Saavik and Spock. End of story. Did he know he was about to die? Doubt it. But he willingly risked his very life to keep Saavik from being murdered in cold blood.
     
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  8. Tallguy

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    I'm curious to see if we can fill a whole page with correcting @Moviefan2k4 about David sacrificing his life to save Saavik.

    If it had been Kirstie Alley he would have remembered.
     
  9. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Who?
     
  10. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Travis Mayweather
     
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  11. Lord Garth

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    Like ENT had an adult contemporary soft-rock song...

    ... I bet SFA has a hip-hop or 2020s pop song as the intro. :devil:

    Calling it now.
     
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  12. cooleddie74

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  13. Citiprime

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    I've always wished the powers that be would totally rethink the soundtrack of one of the series. Not just the intro, but the underlying themes used in episodes, because I think if you really wanted to "reinterpret" Star Trek, the music is one way to differentiate the tone.

    It's all either very background, forgettable orchestral music or variations of stuff we've heard before. And I know they got a lot of backlash when Enterprise tried contemporary music in the intro or attempted stuff like getting Rihanna to do a music video for Star Trek Beyond, but something like Michael Giacchino's "Enterprising Young Men" for Star Trek (2009) I think goes a long way in setting the tone for that film.

    I saw a YouTube video one time where someone scored the battle in DS9's "Call to Arms" with Bear McCreary's "Prelude to War" from Battlestar Galactica and it shifts the tone of the scene.

    I mean even animated stuff like Final Space and Rick & Morty have used their soundtracks and inserted contemporary music in really good ways to accentuate the drama.
     
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  14. CorporalCaptain

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    Paul Reubens would have approved!
     
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  15. TREK_GOD_1

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    What the ensign said.

    Of course.
     
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  16. Satellite of Love

    Satellite of Love Lieutenant Junior Grade Newbie

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    My controversial Star Trek opinions?

    Well... the new Trek series are actually "highly fictionalized" depictions of real events that occurred in the 23rd. and 24/25th century that are being broadcast on whatever Federation entertainment network is around.

    The other controversial Star Trek opinion is that if the Federation had kept its nose out of the Gamma Quadrant, the Dominion War wouldn't have occurred.
     
  17. Praetor

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    "Pain in the Chest."
     
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  18. cooleddie74

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    Cee Lo Green as a Star Trek guest star? Now THAT'S a controversial Star Trek opinion!
     
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  19. ananta

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    The Disney + “Willow” series (of which I only managed to watch a couple of episodes before it was expunged from existence) used contemporary pop and rock songs for the end credits and it was unspeakably jarring and created this weird cognitive dissonance. That was probably the least of the show’s failings but it was such a…choice.
     
  20. Starry-eyed

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    The introduction of Seven to Voyager was okay at the beginning, but in the end it was one of the shows biggest downfalls. The writers never bothered to flesh out the other characters & the moment the novelty of a Barbie Borg lessen they continued to push focus on the character.
     
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