Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by pst, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. NCC-73515

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    Why should resembling a previous ship in a lineage be a requirement for the next one? By that logic, we'd never have gotten an Excelsior class Enterprise, much less a Galaxy class or Sovereign class. I don't like trying to make new letter ships look like upgraded versions of the previous ones. That's the logic that goves us the "Constitution III class".
     
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    I definitely prefer the Voyager-A's design to the Voyager-B, but I'm not super fond of either.

    The A's hull is better but I dislike the nacelles and pylons. The B at least keeps the "nacelles down"-ish design of the original and feels more like a spiritual successor, but is kind of fugly. I guess we can attribute the differences in approach to being designed by the STP production team versus the STO game team.
     
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    Yes, neither design is really satisfactory to me. The A is just a mishmash of an Intrepid and a Sovereign, and the B is just a typical STO 'update' to the Intrepid class. Neither design is particularly original. I think 'originality' in starship design has gone the way of the dodo.
     
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    I will say this.... While I agree with you, the Voyager-A does make sense compared to what we've seen from starships in that era. The B does not. So the A does have that going for it.
     
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    I would attribute the A looking like a "ship of its era" to it being a kitbash of other ships of its era.
     
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    Oh yes. But, at least it fits in the era.
     
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    Yes, I get what you're trying to say. The A does look like a ship from that era. My issue is that it's just not that original.

    I remember before Lower Decks came out, and everyone was wondering what the California class Cerritos would look like. Based on the description, I thought it would be an older TMP/Lost Era-era ship that had seen better days, was kind of beaten up, and was a lot more utilitarian than, say, a Galaxy class starship. Instead, we get this barely-designed ship that looks like it's newer than the Enterprise-D, and they can't even decide on what scale it is (which is nothing new for Star Trek, admittedly.) I was hoping that we would get a new, interesting design for the Voy-A, and instead we get something that to me doesn't even look fully rendered. Like what @137th Gebirg said an another thread, it doesn't even have any windows! Also, going back to the STO Enterprise-F...if you can't tell that it's not a Sovereign class when the ship is in the far background, then your design has failed in its originality. There are some shots of the Voy-A that would make me confuse it for a Sovvie under the right circumstances.
     
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    I'm really hoping those were just "rough shots" and that the final production version has the windows. I could be wrong, though. I haven't seen the French release, and maybe this is what the Voy-A actually looks like.
     
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    I don’t see how
     
  12. Dukhat

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    Of course you wouldn't.
     
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    The nacelles are round like older ships, and the saucer is about the size of the Ambassador’s.

    Either way Mike said the ships are constantly updated.
     
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    Same. It looks very strip down, utilitarian, and not as new as a Galaxy class. It reminds me of a terrible cross between a Galaxy, a Nebula and an Ambassador, though better looking than all three.
     
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    the pics are from the french release, there's no reason to assume they'd change anything for whenever it's released elsewhere
     
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    The ship takes design attributes from the Parliament class, which was new to the TNG+ era.

    We have never seen evidence of this in the show.
     
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    It really doesn’t. It look like a pre-TNG ship
     
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    :sigh: I was afraid of that.
     
  19. Dukhat

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    It really does.
     
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    The Cerritos nacelle and dark saucer superstructure designs are DEFINITELY hallmarks of a post-TNG ship. If the California-class were really older than the Galaxy-class and were part of the same "missing era" as the Wolf 359 ships I'd expect it to look more like this:

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    ...And I would be 100% okay with that, I think this looks great. I'd have also loved for the Cerritos to have been one of the Wolf 359 ship classes – a New Orleans, Cheyenne, or Freedom in particular.
     
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