Well, my point was that the implication was that it started in the 22nd century and lasted to the 26th. But I could be wrong about that.
Me 2, but I still prefer the Congo Class Variant, but I like the Head Hammer style Saucer mounted Foreward Deflector. If we can have both meshed into one ship, Dual Main Deflectors & Tertiary Aft Deflector, that would be nice. This would allow multiple redundant Shield / Defense Systems.
The PIC commbadge is too bottom-heavy, IMO. Moving the split over to line up with the bottom peak of the delta works, but otherwise the AGT version is better.
I don't care much for the Titan-A/Enterprise-G impulse cluster, just looks awkward for a ship that size. It could be an homage to the Enterprise B, which was an overkill too. Those were originally planned on besaucer mounted hangar decks, the MDS on the bridge had them labeled as that. The trend thus far in Trek is to have each new Enterprise larger and sleeker, the F fits into that line up well I think. The Galaxy class was intended to be a long range explorer, thus families and luxurious accommodations, we have no idea about the thinking behind the F's design aside from the show runners wanting to please fans of the online game.
The Shangri-La class which it was based off also had a big impulse deck, but the Connie-III has it split up into 4 engines instead of two. Though the Connie-III has two more impulse engines added to the rear of the saucer.
Yep, the first Enterprise in the whole lineage from 2151 to 2402 to be smaller than its predecessor, at least lengthwise.
The E-E wasn't shorter length wise than the C or the D. The D was 642m long and the Soveriegn off the top of my head was about 685m long. BUT i think what he meant was the E has less internal volume than the C or D. So yes technically smaller when size is categorised as Internal Volume.
I still don't like how they took a Movie Era fanon starship class and basically upscaled it by 1.5 times and changed a few superficial details and left it at that. The Titan A/E-G is fine as it is but then when you realise the Shangri-La is now also canon it opens up a massive can of worms!
I was referring to the 1701-G was the first to not be as long as the Enterprise that preceded it but misread him. My mistake! But I get what you're saying.
SF Command circa 2390s: we need a new multi-role cruiser design to bolster the fleet. SF engineer Krause: Inflate the Shangri-La? SF Command: What?! Krause: *Inflates the Shangri-La* SF command: Damn it! ... Eh if it works...
I think we all put too much pressure on ourselves to love every single starship class when its shown to the public or otherwise released in Star Trek media. We got given a smorgasbord of new designs and classes courtesy of PIC Season 3 and while some might be not to everyone's taste, there are definitely a handful of featured ships that are almost universally liked and appreciated by modern Star Trek audiences. The E-G might be a glorified upscale of the Shangri-La but its different enough to stand out from that and the other 2401/2 ships of the line. Star trek has always had call-backs to previous iterations and some are better handled than others. Besides the technical implications of having the E-G be over 500m long, it is a great nostalgia hit for the lovers of Kirk-era trek. And as for the other ships (most of which come from the Star Trek Online MMO), most of the complaints seem to be related to the black and white colour scheme and not the designs of the ships themselves. The colour scheme could be indicative of a particular fleet or task force so there might well be dozens of those Starships out there with the usual grey tones and aztec hull pattern. In particular I really love the simple and practical design of Beverly's scout ship (cant remember the name), that thing still looked modern while taking cues from the NX-01 and Connie. A lot of thought was put into what designs would be used from STO and obviously into the designs 'built from scratch' for the show. Arguably more than any of the DS9 kitbashes, as some of them were literally just two completely unrelated model kits glued together.
A ship's function is in service to the story. Some garner more aesthetic pleasure but that affection usually doesn't come unless the characters care.
I don't think the showrunners used the Odyssey Class/Enterprise F and the other STO ships in PIC just to please STO fans. The STO playerbase would only constitute a tiny proportion of Picard's audience so that doesn't hold any water. I believe they just knew those designers and simply realised those designs were contemporary with ST Picard and it would be a great oppertunity to showcase some of those ships and also not spend thousands of hours designing and rendering a dozen new Starship designs for one season of a show.