Hello everyone, I've been reading these boards for many years and finally decided to join. I especially enjoy and respect the fact that many of the authors take the time to join in on discussions and patiently answer readers questions or comments. I've enjoyed the direction of Trek Lit since I began reading the DS9 re-launch. Previous to that I had read different and scattered bits of Trek Lit mainly focused on TOS/TNG with Yesterday's Son being my first Trek novel all those years ago . The direction Star Trek books have taken has really drawn me back into this wonderful universe. I am one of those who loves the idea of a "shared universe" that effects all the other novels. This makes me feel like the story doesn't end when I've finished one novel and that the "next chapter" is the book coming out next. I am very grateful for the Charting the Novel-verse created by Turtletrekker and am using it to complete a collection of Trek books based off of it. I am trying to purchase and track down only those novels that effect or are referenced in another book. Some of the DS9 books are harder to come by but I'm making steady progress. I do have a question however: Is there a reading timeline for the TNG era of books (TNG, CoE, Titan, Voyager, DS9) listed on the web somewhere based on Turtletrekker's list? One that shows which story (novel) comes 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. regardless of which series? I thought I might ask before I tried to figure it out myself (selfishly using the hard work done by others ). Thank you very much for any help and I'm glad to have finally joined this most excellent board !!
These are the important ones. First is the whole DS9 Relaunch. Publication order from Memory Beta, just search "DS9 Relaunch". You can skip The Left Hand of Destiny and all the comics. Typhon Pact comes later. Then, skip a year, and: VOY: Homecoming VOY: The Farther shore VOY: Old Wounds VOY: Enemy of My Enemy Then, skip a year (I think? More or less?) and the rest all flows from there: TNG: A Time to Be Born TNG: A Time to Die TNG: A Time to Sow TNG: A Time to Harvest TNG: A Time to Love TNG: A Time to Hate TNG: A Time to Kill TNG: A Time to Heal TNG: A Time for War, a Time for Peace TNG: Death in Winter TTN: Taking Wing TTN: The Red King TNG: Articles of the Federation TTN: Orion's Hounds TNG: Resistance TNG: Q & A TNG: Before Dishonor TTN: The Sword of Damocles TNG: Greater Than The Sum Destiny: Gods of Night Destiny: Mere Mortals Destiny: Lost Souls TNG: Losing The Peace A Singular Destiny VOY: Full Circle VOY: Unworthy VOY: Children Of The Storm TTN: Over a Torrent Sea TTN: Synthesis Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game Typhon Pact: Seize the Fire Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire Typhon Pact: Paths of Disharmony TNG: Indistinguishable From Magic There's also DTI: Watching The Clock, which you can read at any point after A Singular Destiny, really. That's pretty much it. Oh, also: feel free to skip the first 4 Voyager books and the first 6 A Time To... books.
Thanks Thrawn. That helps quite a bit. However, what about all the "un-officiallly" connected books to the relaunches such as Vendetta, Q-books, Gemworld, etc.? The Charting the Novel-verse connects many more previous books that have certain characters or events that are later referenced in the relaunch books. Does anyone have a working reading order for these? I know some will say just read whichever ones you want in whatever order but I'm a bit anal about these things. Plus I want to order all the book chronologically on my bookshelf !
You want an exhaustive list? Okay, here's a possible answer to your questions above. Thrawn gave you the most important, but if you want to know what else is connected, I'll give a list of most of the post-series stories that form part of, or tie into, the mainstream continuity. This is deliberately extensive, basically overkill. Keep in mind you don't have to read anything (well, starting a particular series half way might be a bad idea . If you want to know what in particular to read, the others can give pointers. But here's the big one. In more-or-less in-universe chronological order: The Battle of Betazed Tales of the Dominion War Mirror Universe: Obsidian Alliances The Left Hand of Destiny, book one The Left Hand of Destiny, book two Gemworld, book one Gemworld, book two Diplomatic Implausibility A Stitch in Time SCE omnibus: Have Tech, Will Travel Avatar, book one Avatar, book two SCE omnibus: Miracle Workers Section 31: Abyss Demons of Air and Darkness SCE omnibus: Some Assembly Required Twilight The Brave and the Bold, book two SCE omnibus: No Surrender SCE omnibus: Foundations SCE omnibus: Wildfire This Gray Spirit Cathedral A Good Day to Die SCE omnibus: Breakdowns Lesser Evil Honour Bound Rising Son Corps of Engineers omnibus: Aftermath Unity Enemy Territory Worlds of DS9: Trill: Unjoined Worlds of DS9: Bajor: Fragments and Omens Corps of Engineers omnibus: Grand Designs Worlds of DS9: Andor: Paradigm A Burning House Corps of Engineers omnibus: Creative Couplings Worlds of DS9: Ferenginar: Satisfaction Is Not Guaranteed Mirror Universe anthology: Shards and Shadows Worlds of DS9: Cardassia: The Lotus Flower Corps of Engineers omnibus: Wounds The Genesis Wave, book one The Genesis Wave, book two Worlds of DS9: Dominion: Olympus Descending Genesis Force Warpath Fearful Symmetry Vulcan's Soul: Exodus The Soul Key Corps of Engineers omnibus: Out of the Cocoon Vulcan’s Soul: Exiles Vulcan’s Soul: Epiphany Corps of Engineers omnibus: What’s Past Voyager: Homecoming Voyager: The Father Shore The Never-Ending Sacrifice Voyager: Old Wounds Voyager: Enemy of my Enemy A Time to Be Born A Time to Die A Time to Sow A Time to Harvest A Time to Love A Time to Hate A Time To Kill A Time to Heal A Time For War/A Time for Peace Death in Winter Titan: Taking Wing Titan: The Red King Resistance Titan: Orion’s Hounds Q and A Titan: Sword of Damocles Before Dishonour Articles of the Federation Greater Than the Sum Destiny: Gods of Night Destiny: Mere Mortals Destiny: Lost Souls A Singular Destiny Losing the Peace Voyager: Full Circle Titan: Over a Torrent Sea Voyager: Unworthy Titan: Synthesis Mirror Universe: Rise Like Lions Voyager: Children of the Storm Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire DTI: Watching the Clock Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game Typhon Pact: Seize the Fire Typhon Pact: Paths of Disharmony Indistinguishable From Magic If you want to be even more exhaustive, the above books sometimes reference the events of novels set earlier than the series. You might, if you're being a completist here, want to get the Lost Era series and a few books set alongside it: The Sundered Serpents Among the Ruins Terok Nor: Day of the Vipers The Art of the Impossible Well of Souls Vulcan's Heart Terok Nor: Night of the Wolves Deny Thy Father Catalyst of Sorrows The Buried Age Terok Nor: Dawn of the Eagles. And you might want the Vanguard series too, set before the above novels, during the TOS series. I think that's more or less an exhaustive list....
Thank you! Thank you! That is certainly what I was looking for as well as the Lost Era, etc. pieces. I am a completest to the detriment of my wife who has to put up with me ! Can you expand this list to also include pre-continuity books that are referenced in main continuity such as Vendetta, Gemworld, Section 31, and all those others mentioned in the Charting the Novel-verse thread? ... not that I'm not extremely grateful for your list as is ! As I stated I want to try and gather all these book into one collection. I've actually already read many of the "main-continuity" books from DS9 through A Singular Destiny. On the 2nd Beyer Voyager book and started the Titan series but was a little overwhelmed with the amount of VERY different species that make up the crew. Had a hard time getting into the first book for that reason.
^ Most of those are in there, actually. You can read the rest of the Section 31 and Gateways books where the DS9 entries appear on Nasat's list. And yes, VERY MUCH YES, read Vanguard first if you're planning on being completist, because it's AWESOME. And while you're at it, add Forged In Fire before The Sundered.
Actually, if you give me until this weekend, I can make a list that has absolutely everything. We're most of the way there already; I think it would sort of be fun to throw in there absolutely everything important. I've read almost all of it in the last two years; it'd be fun to get it all sorted out.
Other than the STO novel, Starfleet Academy, and Klingon novelisations , I don't think any of the games have ever had anything to do with the books. Those three are not part of the novelverse.
I patiently await this list ! I also love these type of list and it will help me sort out and find everything I need. Now it might take me a bit longer to actually read it all but that is the fun part!! Everything from Vanguard on would be awesome! I also think that the comics mentioned in the Charting the Novel-verse thread would be a nice bonus...?
Okay, hold on to your sombreros, here's the really big version (hopefully saving Thrawn some work). All of these fit together, most link in with each other to some degree (minor or otherwise) and I've included a few that have no real overt connection but still fit comfortably in there. I've also included most of the New Frontier books, but I've underlined them - events and characters from that series are frequently referenced in the "mainstream" but it tends to do its own thing. So they're sort of blurred when it comes to linking in but worth including in a super-expanded list. Again, this is moving more or less chronologically from an in-universe perspective: Enterprise (22nd century): Rosetta (not of major importance, but fits fine and gets a reference or two elsewhere) The Good That Men Do Kobayashi Maru The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptors Wing (The second Romulan War book isn't out yet but it'll go here, of course). Original Series and Movie (23rd century): Vanguard: Harbinger Vanguard: Summon the Thunder Vanguard: Reap the Whirlwind Vanguard: Open Secrets Vanguard: Precipice Vanguard: Declassified (Final two Vanguard books to come within next 12 months) (You might want to include the Errand of Vengeance and Errand of Fury trilogies; six books that are rather stand-alone but make a few references to aspects of Klingoness that feature in the mainstream, and are given a nod or two in the Vanguard series. Not by any means essential, but you did say you're a total completist...) (Maybe the two Eugenics Wars books, which have inspired a few later stories) Section 31: Cloak (Not important but gets a reference or two later, like in "Ex Machina"). Troublesome Minds (No real continuity references, but nothing that contradicts; fits in fine) Ex Machina Unspoken Truth (To Reign In Hell, if you included the Eugenics Wars books) Forged In Fire The Last Roundup (Not important, but works fine and introduces a (very) minor race that show up elsewhere) The Captain's Daughter Mirror Universe: The Sorrows of Empire The Sundered Mere Anarchy series (available as an omnibus) pre-TNG 24th century: Cast No Shadow (which is out either this month or next) Serpents Among the Ruins Terok Nor: Day of the Vipers The Art of the Impossible Well of Souls Vulcan's Heart Terok Nor: Night of the Wolves Deny Thy Father Catalyst of Sorrows The Buried Age Terok Nor: Dawn of the Eagles. Post-TNG, last few seasons of DS9, mid-Voyager: The 34th Rule Section 31: Rogue NF: House of Cards NF: Into the Void NF: The Two-Front War NF: End Game NF: Once Burned Immortal Coil (Not important, but fits in nicely) Hollow Men (Ditto) NF: Martyr NF: Fire on High Voyager: Cohesion (This Voyager trilogy isn't important but fits in fine): Voyager: Fusion Voyager: Evolution The Battle of Betazed Tales of the Dominion War Mirror Universe: Obsidian Alliances Post-DS9, late Voyager: The Left Hand of Destiny, book one The Left Hand of Destiny, book two Gemworld, book one Gemworld, book two (These two aren't essential but do get referenced later, worth including). Diplomatic Implausibility A Stitch in Time NF: The Quiet Place NF: Dark Allies SCE omnibus: Have Tech, Will Travel NF: Requiem NF: Renaissance NF: Restoration (There's a New Frontier anthology, "No Limits", which offers links to the rest of the list in a few places as well as to New Frontier. The last story is set here on the timeline, so if you include the anthology you might read them all here) Avatar, book one Avatar, book two SCE omnibus: Miracle Workers Section 31: Abyss Demons of Air and Darkness NF: Cold Wars SCE omnibus: Some Assembly Required Twilight The Brave and the Bold (Two books, with four stories set in various series - this is the chronological position of the last of the four; you can read them all at once here). SCE omnibus: No Surrender SCE omnibus: Foundations SCE omnibus: Wildfire This Gray Spirit NF: Being Human NF: Gods Above NF: Stone and Anvil Cathedral A Good Day to Die SCE omnibus: Breakdowns Lesser Evil Honour Bound Rising Son Corps of Engineers omnibus: Aftermath Unity Enemy Territory Worlds of DS9: Trill: Unjoined Worlds of DS9: Bajor: Fragments and Omens Corps of Engineers omnibus: Grand Designs Worlds of DS9: Andor: Paradigm A Burning House Corps of Engineers omnibus: Creative Couplings Worlds of DS9: Ferenginar: Satisfaction Is Not Guaranteed Mirror Universe anthology: Shards and Shadows Worlds of DS9: Cardassia: The Lotus Flower Corps of Engineers omnibus: Wounds The Genesis Wave, book one The Genesis Wave, book two Worlds of DS9: Dominion: Olympus Descending Genesis Force Warpath Fearful Symmetry Vulcan's Soul: Exodus The Soul Key Corps of Engineers omnibus: Out of the Cocoon Vulcan’s Soul: Exiles Vulcan’s Soul: Epiphany Corps of Engineers omnibus: What’s Past Post-Voyager: Voyager: Homecoming Voyager: The Farther Shore The Never-Ending Sacrifice Voyager: Old Wounds Voyager: Enemy of my Enemy A Time to Be Born A Time to Die A Time to Sow A Time to Harvest A Time to Love A Time to Hate A Time To Kill A Time to Heal A Time For War/A Time for Peace NF: After the Fall Post-Nemesis: Nf: Missing In Action Tales From the Captain's Table (For the Riker story, though most of the others (set at earlier points) tie in to the mainstream too, and you can just read them all here) Death in Winter Titan: Taking Wing Titan: The Red King Resistance Titan: Orion’s Hounds Q and A Titan: Sword of Damocles Before Dishonour Articles of the Federation Greater Than the Sum Destiny: Gods of Night Destiny: Mere Mortals Destiny: Lost Souls A Singular Destiny Losing the Peace Voyager: Full Circle Titan: Over a Torrent Sea Voyager: Unworthy Titan: Synthesis Mirror Universe: Rise Like Lions Voyager: Children of the Storm Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire DTI: Watching the Clock Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game Typhon Pact: Seize the Fire Typhon Pact: Paths of Disharmony Indistinguishable From Magic
Now that's what I'm talking about!!!!!!! I really do appreciate the time you took to compile this list (and to Thrawn and Turtletrekker as well). Thank you very much. edit: Looking at the Charting the Novel-verse thread again where do you think all the Q books go (David and Cox), Vendetta, the comics, Ship of the line, and others mentioned?
The trilogy of The Q Continuum would slot in on that list around the time of New Frontier: Martyr and Fire on High, more or less. It's recently become a little bit iffy with the mainstream, mind. Vendetta you can place between Dawn of the Eagles and The 34th Rule. PS: I didn't mention the Stargazer series, which is only loosely linked in but, as with New Frontier, the characters and races it introduces are mentioned quite a few times. If you want to include them, put The Valiant, Gauntlet, Progenitor, Three, Enigma and Maker after Serpents Among the Ruins, put The First Virtue after Night of the Wolves and Reunion after Vendetta/before The 34th Rule. PPS: One of the stories in the Seven Deadly Sins anthology ties in to the Vanguard series. Most of the other stories work fine with the list, too. I think I'm more or less done...
Damn, I wish my site was ready to unveil. It is exactly what the original poster was wanting, a chronological reading list for each series, and for the entire Lit-verse. Can't wait til I get done with it. I'm about 1/2 done. TOS is so massive I've been stuck on it for a couple months. Plus my super slow work pace, what with real life and all getting in the way. The lists provided here so far aren't as complete as mine, which even has several stories not mentioned in the Charting the Novelverse thread. <Runs away to work on the site more.>
^ Looking forward to it And, Nasat, that's pretty fantastic; I still see a few I want to add, though, some in-series novels that are either in-continuity or worthwhile for other reasons. But at a certain point, I think everyone makes their own decisions about stuff like that, and yours are certainly valid. Great list.
Well, I forgot the Prophecy and Change and Distant Shores anthologies (though The Calling in the former is probably best considered an alternate reality). Actually, there's several other entries I forgot - at least half the stories from Constellations and The Sky's The Limit, if not the whole volumes. Where Sea Meets Sky and Burning Dreams for some Pike goodness. Lives of Dax (oops!) Then there's the Voyager Gateways book No Man's Land, the Voyager Section 31 book Shadow, The Nanotech War (sorry, Voyager! You were neglected it seems...). Probably still a few more. For what it's worth, I personally consider all the "maybes" on my list to be "yeses", but I wanted to leave it a bit less absolute for the OP. And of course, Myriad Universes is an odd case by the very nature of the series - it's definitely not part of the continuity, yet it still draws on that continuity's bank of contents and is perfectly compatible in its way by virtue of its setting(s). So it's basically part of the idea of the modern shared 'verse even as it exists deliberately outside it.
Nasat, I'm looking for an "as complete as possible" list so throw in as many as make sense ! I'm actually less interested in any TOS stuff and looking mainly at Vanguard and everything in TNG timeline that fits the current continuity. I'll try and go back to TOS later but am enjoying the novel continuity quite a bit and want to get any novels (or comics) that are referenced in, and don't contradict, this new novel continuity.
I look forwarded to it. The site based on the timeline in Voyages of Imagination came to a sudden halt. http://sites.google.com/site/stvoti/Home/ http://sites.google.com/site/stvotitimeline/Home I think those are different versions of the same site.