Abiogenesis and life on Earth - thoughts and pet theories?

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Asbo Zaprudder, Mar 9, 2024.

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Where and how did life on Earth first arise?

  1. Warm little pond, metabolism first

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  2. Warm little pond, membrane first

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  3. Warm little pond, heredity (RNA/DNA/clay/?) first

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  4. Tidal pool, metabolism first

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  5. Tidal pool, membrane first

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  6. Tidal pool, heredity (RNA/DNA/clay/?) first

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  7. Alkaline vent, metabolism first

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  8. Alkaline vent, membrane first

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  9. Alkaline vent, heredity (RNA/DNA/clay/?) first

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  10. Black smoker, metabolism first

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  11. Black smoker, membrane first

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  12. Black smoker, heredity (RNA/DNA/clay/?) first

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  13. Panspermia - life arrived from elsewhere

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  14. Flying Spaghetti Monster or deity of choice

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  15. Other...

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  1. Moviefan2k4

    Moviefan2k4 Captain Red Shirt

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    I was simply pointing out that since the universe is not eternal, a cause for it has to exist which is. That's the only way to escape an infinite regress - otherwise you're just stuck with asking "Well, who made that?", forever.
     
  2. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    Or, we continue to learn and eventually figure out how things work.
     
  3. Timelord Victorious

    Timelord Victorious Vice Admiral Admiral

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    We don’t know that it isn’t.
    Cosmic inflation model, what is commonly refered to as the Big Bang, doesn’t describe the moments before the known universe rapidly inflated.
    How much before there is, we haven’t got the slightest clue yet and we may never.

    A „who“ presupposition is a very blatant human bias.
    What caused this? Oh, it must be something just like me! No thanks.
     
  4. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    This is where I struggle with religion.
     
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  6. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Turtles all the way down, as one story goes.
    I have been enjoying a series by an astrophysicist about their process on observing the universe. Quite fascinating.
     
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  7. Serveaux

    Serveaux Fleet Admiral Premium Member

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    What's your point?

    The better formulation is "Why is that?" anyway. "Who" is an unnecessary assumption.
     
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  8. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah, all eukaryotes (including us) appear to be a product of symbiogenesis, which allowed our archaea ancestors to survive and to exploit the increasing levels of oxygen produced by cyanobacteria. Chloroplasts in plants are another example. Of course, in the fictional Star Wars galaxy, there are the midi-chlorians, which George Lucas acknowledged are based on mitochondria.
     
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  9. BK613

    BK613 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Which one?
     
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